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05 Jun 2009, 2:51 am

There's kind of a difference Brusilov, you see as a republic, the french government gives citizenship to ANYONE with the slightest bit of fresh blood in em . And you'll have to admit that at the very least, France is a bit more caring about its old colonies than the rest of Europe (then again, i'm speaking through my hat since i've never heard about the rest of what Europe does in that regard). So i wonder why you'd want to support Jean-Marie le Pen and his extreme immigration ideas -.- he's frankly annoying and trying to set up a segment of the population against the other.

And for the record, i've read the book, it seems it's still rather actual. =/ Though some of the data mght be too old to consider.



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05 Jun 2009, 8:11 am

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She thinks more immigrants with "fresh ideas" are the answer, but these liberals are seriously disillusioned if they think that these little thugs and "gangstas" in our schools now are ever going to be changed into responsible citizens.


That's what was said about the Irish, who were considered a separate race. Ever see "Gangs of New York"?? Fears of the 'Catholic menace' has pretty much subsided and they have moved to the suburbs and blend in like everyone else.



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05 Jun 2009, 10:20 am

College teachers are more open to debate, but they only recognize two positions; Moderate-Liberal and Extreme-Liberal. As for my High-School, well, they had the nerve to paint a massive mural on the cafeteria wall shamelessly promoting interracial marriage. It was the image of a black boy holding the hand of a blonde white girl surrounded by flags of 180 different countries and a nauseating slogan, "Celebrating Diversity." My god how far we have deteriorated as a people in 50 years. Thankfully, at least, terms like "globalization" and "outsourcing" are starting to bring on negative connotations.

My school flagrantly promoted interracial dating. Without fail, once a month in the school newspaper, there was an article written singing the virtues of students finding love in bi-ethnic relationships and homosexual relationships. I guess it probably never occured to anyone that some people might not find miscegenation on the consensus. What would our forefathers say if they could see our schools today? And of course there was that sickening mural that was virtually instructing white girls to date black boys, or the school was condoning interracial relationships. Most of the students in my school anyway were liberals, but it was a sycophantic liberalism that had been pounded and brainwashed into their head by years of purposeful training. They were conforming to being non-conformists.

I know that the same fears were mentioned about the Irish menace, but the Irish were at least Caucasian and European.



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05 Jun 2009, 10:41 am

I reckon schools are supposed to bring forth innovation and creativity in their student, not some biggoted version of the past. See?

Besides, in a purely genetic standpoint, inter racial wedding is good, more bio diversity = more potential for adaptation, you should see how much a mixed breed dog lives longer than the pure races because they've had that potential (which is usually spent on qualities we want a pure race to have, heh).

Honestly, that conservative attitude of yours will not find much sympathy in a place where they encourage you to open your mind to "new" things.



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05 Jun 2009, 10:50 am

Absolutely right. "Pure" breeds have a high incidence of reinforced recessives, while crossing dissimilar genotypes creates something called "hybrid vigor".

I hadn't known the OP was a racist, which is sad. I have read all of his posts on here with great interest, because he has so much insight and expresses himself so clearly. Oh, well.



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05 Jun 2009, 10:56 am

OP comes off as sexist.

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I beg Miss Ehrenreich to take her America-loathing self to some anti-white cesspool such as Zimbabwae and see if she would prefer living in THAT culture.


This argument is pathetically weak.

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I am so sick of ultra-liberal white ladies dominating our politics


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Of course, my High School English teacher was a raging, hormonal, flower-power liberal who had wet dreams thinking about Malcolm X.


This sentence is disgusting.

I wanted to comment more, but reading that drivel is tilting me.

I really despise political correctness, but I also can't stand verbal diarrhea.



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05 Jun 2009, 10:59 am

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I have to say, it seems pretty ironic that you hate immigrants who come to this country to work and contribute to the economy when you yourself live on SSI


I must have missed this. This makes the diatribe even more ridiculous.



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05 Jun 2009, 1:13 pm

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I know that the same fears were mentioned about the Irish menace, but the Irish were at least Caucasian and European.


So? White supremacy is a view held by a small minority of a minority - it is scientifically flawed, ethically stunted, and is not the way that most people think or live their lives. So get used to things as they are.



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06 Jun 2009, 1:07 pm

I guess no one is perfect. But our irrational thoughts make us human.

btw, I always speak my mind and I don't give a damn what anybody thinks. I realize that on this site most everyone holds strong liberal views, but whatever. I am who I am.



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06 Jun 2009, 4:38 pm

and I don't live on SSI by the way. I work



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06 Jun 2009, 8:49 pm

Now if an outsider (or even a foreigner, just for fun) had Asperger's, showed up at your door, you'd show him out i suppose? Way to go sir! Just pray he doesn't learn about this site's existence and comes to ruin your reputation. =^p



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06 Jun 2009, 9:27 pm

Everywhere I go I run myself into the ground on my own: I don't need "help" from others. That is the hallmark of my AS is that I can't adapt my views, ideals, or personality to fit my peer group. I really don't give a damn about someone "ruining" my reputation, because my true colors always come out within due time. I know it is my AS that has fostered my extreme views. I was tormented for years in school and by my parents and I suppose my brain was warped. I know I have no chance of ever even remotely fitting in anywhere so I might as well speak my mind.

In my world, all I have ever seen is the worst of the worst and I long for a return to "better days." I just want to live in a clean, orderly society where I am not constantly bombarded by rap-music, pop-culture, or general tastelessness. Take back America to 1925, I say, even if I know it is unrealistic. Years of not fitting in and suffering transformed me into an extreme reactionary. Yet, even as a 1st grader, I still held rather defined and extreme views on politics and how I wanted life to be.

Even if I had wanted to, I was never able to moderate my views, make concessions, or conform to how my peers felt. I had plenty of people see potential in me and try to "change" me, but I resisted vehemently. Many of my peers and teachers seemed to feel that I could easily be changed into "one of them," and they tried to quelch my many eccentricities. I was always disgusted with my peers' acceptance of the liberal mush shoved down their throats, their wild behavior, and the more libertine of the teachers. I longed for the wild kids to be brought to heel and for the yelling and screaming just to stop.



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07 Jun 2009, 12:54 am

You have a right to speak your point of view, but it is absolutely sickening.



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07 Jun 2009, 12:37 pm

So here we have on this thread a white guy, Brusilov, speaking up for the preservation of his own cultural and genetic heritage, and we have a bunch of people attacking him and propagandizing for the destruction of that heritage with a load of stuff about how mixed-race people are genetically superior, and how he’s in a minority and he should just accept the status quo.

If this overused word “racist” applies to anyone on this thread, it applies to those of you throwing your liberal propaganda at Brusilov, not to Brusilov himself. Why is this so difficult for so many people to understand?

monty wrote:
Brusilov wrote:
I know that the same fears were mentioned about the Irish menace, but the Irish were at least Caucasian and European.


So? White supremacy is a view held by a small minority of a minority - it is scientifically flawed, ethically stunted, and is not the way that most people think or live their lives. So get used to things as they are.


‘Supremacy’ is another overused word. What has wanting to preserve one’s own heritage got to do with ‘supremacy’?
As for ‘minority views’, liberals like you seem to be very supportive of themwhen it suits you.
In fact, monty, you’re one of the most extreme anti-white liberals I’ve seen on this site (and that is really saying something). I’m curious about whether your own racial background (whatever that is) has anything to do with it.

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I reckon schools are supposed to bring forth innovation and creativity in their student, not some biggoted version of the past. See?

Besides, in a purely genetic standpoint, inter racial wedding is good, more bio diversity = more potential for adaptation, you should see how much a mixed breed dog lives longer than the pure races because they've had that potential (which is usually spent on qualities we want a pure race to have, heh).

Honestly, that conservative attitude of yours will not find much sympathy in a place where they encourage you to open your mind to "new" things.


I wonder how well you’ve really thought this through. What do you mean when you say “more bio diversity = more potential for adaptation”? From a genetic standpoint, the aim of each living thing is to maximise the copies of their own genes that are passed on to future generations, which should suggest immediately that having children with genetically distant partners is not the way to go about it. In fact, research has shown that there is a fitness trade-off between too much inbreeding and too much outbreeding, and that the Darwinian optimum would be tohave children with a partner of one’s own race who is at least as genetically distant as one’s third cousin.

If you’re suggesting that race-mixing might benefit humanity via the creative talents of mixed-race people, I would point out that whites have achieved plenty as they are – including inventing that machine called the computer that you’re typing on.

And by the way, “new” things are not always “better” things.



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07 Jun 2009, 12:40 pm

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Absolutely right. "Pure" breeds have a high incidence of reinforced recessives, while crossing dissimilar genotypes creates something called "hybrid vigor".


It wouldn’t matter if mixed race people really were smarter and fitter than unmixed whites and/or blacks and/or anyone else. Each ethnic and racial group has a natural right to self-preservation.

But anyway, this argument about hybrid vigour it flawed, because hybrid vigour decreases with each generation
Say you have a gene that exists in two versions, A and a; so that any given individual could be either AA, aa or Aa. Then say the ‘desired’ genotype is Aa. Cross AA with aa, and all first generation hybrids will be Aa. If the first generation hybrids breed among themselves at random, only half of the second generation hybrids will be Aa. This is why farmers retain their original stocks and don’t let hybrids breed among themselves.

Race-mixing brings other problems with it as well:

Researchers have found that Asian women pregnant with white men's babies are more likely to deliver by cesarean section, and are now recommending that doctors factor in both a mother and father's race when they consider the risk of birth complications. … Few studies have focused specifically on Asian-Caucasian couples. Most research has focused on interracial Caucasian and black couples, and those studies found that couples with a white father and black mother had notably high rates of stillbirths, pre-term births and low-birth-weight babies, Dr. Caughey said.

(See: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/article713674.ece )


CHAPEL HILL -- A new study that involved surveying 90,000 adolescent U.S. students showed that those who considered themselves to be of mixed race were more likely than others to suffer from depression, substance abuse, sleep problems and various aches and pains.
Conducted by researchers at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and the National Institutes of Health, the investigation found that adolescents of mixed race were more likely to have other health problems as well.
"It did not matter what races the students identified with, the risks were higher for all of them if they did not identify with a single race," said Dr. J. Richard Udry, principal author of a paper on the work appearing in the November issue of the American Journal of Public Health.


(See: http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/oct03/ ... 02003.html )

HAYWARD, Calif. – If Nick Glasgow were white, he would have a nearly 90 percent chance of finding a matching bone marrow donor who could cure his leukemia. … But because the 28-year-old bodybuilder is one-quarter Japanese, his doctor warned him the outlook was grim. Glasgow's background would make it almost impossible to find a match, which usually comes from a patient's own ethnic group.

(See: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090527/ap_ ... ace_donors )



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07 Jun 2009, 2:08 pm

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So here we have on this thread a white guy, Brusilov, speaking up for the preservation of his own cultural and genetic heritage, and we have a bunch of people attacking him and propagandizing for the destruction of that heritage with a load of stuff about how mixed-race people are genetically superior, and how he’s in a minority and he should just accept the status quo.

If this overused word “racist” applies to anyone on this thread, it applies to those of you throwing your liberal propaganda at Brusilov, not to Brusilov himself. Why is this so difficult for so many people to understand?

I haven't read every post, but I've only seen one person arguing in support of "hybrid vigor," but that applies to the mixing of isolated populations and entirely separate species. The various races of human are genetically not much distinct and are already blended from generations of migrations, colonization, and wars. In other words, we're all mongrels, not pure-bred puppies.

Arguing for the genetic superiority of one group over another isn't exactly a liberal position (misinformed maybe, racist yes).

What's offensive about Brusilov's position is its sheer bigotry and hatred. The fact that other couples are finding happiness across skin color does him no harm, but he wishes to do them harm by preventing it if he had the power to do so. It sounds to me that Brusilov is looking for scapegoats in liberals, non-whites, and feminists; it's paranoia in operation.

The calls for cultural and genetic purity are exactly what the Nazis called for, and the world has seen the atrocities that led to.

Immigrants are not some suspicious other. They are people like the rest of us who are just trying to better their lives.