MattShizzle wrote:
It's a myth that we are losing jobs to illegals - they are mostly jobs Americans won't do. Even if we could get Americans to do them we'd have to pay more. Do you want to pay 12 bucks for a head of lettuce at the grocery store?
Do you enjoy having a poor underclass with deflated wages due to mass influx of even poorer immigrants? Of course you do! We
need to have food even more ridiculously cheep!
Orwell wrote:
People have been bitching about that sort of thing since the dawn of recorded history. Is it actually worse now?
American cities are s**tholes; no secret about that. Reason being, simply enough, that anyone with any money left them in the post-war period, and things like race riots further exacerbated the problem until there was no one but the very poor (generally minority underclass) left, and there were no more jobs left for them. There has been in many of the classic large cities in the United States severe depopulation over the last 70 years or so. Detroit's city proper is scarcely half the size it was in 1960; another especially hard hit city is Newark in NJ, which was I think one of the maybe 20 largest cities in the country back in the 30s, but has since lost nearly two hundred thousand people and is scarcely a blip on the radar. Even Manhattan is significantly lower in population relative to what it was at its peak.
But I'm getting side tracked. Point is that contemporary urban decay can't be pinned on minorities not taking care of the cities, but is instead tied largely to the fact that their populations are primarily underclass and the widespread poverty isn't exactly conducive to taking care of the cities. Blaming minorities for the fact that cities are populated by poor people is ludicrous on two fronts: first is that the white middle class chose to flee the cities in the first place, and second is that one would essentially have to blame minorities for being poor. If I remember the history of the cities of the Rust Belt (including the likes of Newark and Detroit), the migration of poor blacks from the South to the cities in the North coincided roughly with a shift in industrial work and consequently jobs out of the cities in the first place, on top of the fact that discrimination etc. existed up until and after around the time that places like Newark were vacated by the middle class entirely, leaving no opportunities for those left.
Fact is that blaming minorities for the current state of American cities is ridiculous. Maybe if the middle class wants our cities to be nice places they could try actually living in one.
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Is crime up? I think that's largely a popular myth, but I could be wrong. I'm too lazy to go check the numbers.
I'm relatively certain that crime is up quite a bit over the 50s for the country as a whole, although presently it's down compared to the 80s.
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