Was Hitler trying to breed a race of super aspies?
Sand wrote:
OddFinn wrote:
Magnus wrote:
Many also claimed to have eye color changes after the age of 2.
How about hair color? I have seen pictures of myself taken when I was very young (under 4), and my hair was blond (yellow-ish). And when I was 6 my hair had turned into dark brown, and has been such this far (some gray is now emerging).
My sons were also blond through babyhood and later turned dark. It seems a common Finnish phenomenon and I doubt it has anything to do with Asperberger's.
Yeah, everyone's hair changes color but when it's really pronounced it raises my eyebrow.
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Orwell wrote:
Sand wrote:
I have heard that Neanderthal brains were larger than those of Homo Sapiens.
Their brains were larger in cubic centimeters, but their mental capacity was lower. Homo Sapiens brains are folded differently than Neanderthal brains were, giving us more surface area to work with. Surface area is more important than volume when comparing brains.
It wasn't an exact science of course to measure craniums as if the brain capacity is bigger and better, but it was a start to think that breeding big headed people with high intelligence could lead to brainier offspring. I don't think I should have to remind anyone here that autistics have frankenstein sized heads.
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Magnus wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Sand wrote:
I have heard that Neanderthal brains were larger than those of Homo Sapiens.
Their brains were larger in cubic centimeters, but their mental capacity was lower. Homo Sapiens brains are folded differently than Neanderthal brains were, giving us more surface area to work with. Surface area is more important than volume when comparing brains.
It wasn't an exact science of course to measure craniums as if the brain capacity is bigger and better, but it was a start to think that breeding big headed people with high intelligence could lead to brainier offspring. I don't think I should have to remind anyone here that autistics have frankenstein sized heads.
Since my head is about normal sized and I lack those essential Frankensteinian electrical buttons on either side of my neck I suppose there is a reasonable chance I am not AS after all. The only odd thing about my skull was that my fontanel, the soft spot at the top of my skull, remained soft until I was about 60 permitting my brain to grow a bit or leaving space for the insertion of an antenna. Since I do not rate myself as being more than slightly brighter than average it seems not to have conferred any major novel capabilities.
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Sand wrote:
Magnus wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Sand wrote:
I have heard that Neanderthal brains were larger than those of Homo Sapiens.
Their brains were larger in cubic centimeters, but their mental capacity was lower. Homo Sapiens brains are folded differently than Neanderthal brains were, giving us more surface area to work with. Surface area is more important than volume when comparing brains.
It wasn't an exact science of course to measure craniums as if the brain capacity is bigger and better, but it was a start to think that breeding big headed people with high intelligence could lead to brainier offspring. I don't think I should have to remind anyone here that autistics have frankenstein sized heads.
Since my head is about normal sized and I lack those essential Frankensteinian electrical buttons on either side of my neck I suppose there is a reasonable chance I am not AS after all. The only odd thing about my skull was that my fontanel, the soft spot at the top of my skull, remained soft until I was about 60 permitting my brain to grow a bit or leaving space for the insertion of an antenna. Since I do not rate myself as being more than slightly brighter than average it seems no to have conferred any major novel capabilities.
Yeah, the aliens tend to do that (forget to close the fontanel) when a newbie starts.
Your wicked smart too Sand. You're just a bit of an as*hole is all.
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As long as man continues to be the ruthless destroyer of lower living beings he will never know health or peace. For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other.
-Pythagoras
Magnus wrote:
Yeah, the aliens tend to do that (forget to close the fontanel) when a newbie starts.
Your wicked smart too Sand. You're just a bit of an as*hole is all.
Your wicked smart too Sand. You're just a bit of an as*hole is all.
I actually laughed aloud at this. Magnus, you have a wicked sense of humour.
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Magnus wrote:
Sand wrote:
Magnus wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Sand wrote:
I have heard that Neanderthal brains were larger than those of Homo Sapiens.
Their brains were larger in cubic centimeters, but their mental capacity was lower. Homo Sapiens brains are folded differently than Neanderthal brains were, giving us more surface area to work with. Surface area is more important than volume when comparing brains.
It wasn't an exact science of course to measure craniums as if the brain capacity is bigger and better, but it was a start to think that breeding big headed people with high intelligence could lead to brainier offspring. I don't think I should have to remind anyone here that autistics have frankenstein sized heads.
Since my head is about normal sized and I lack those essential Frankensteinian electrical buttons on either side of my neck I suppose there is a reasonable chance I am not AS after all. The only odd thing about my skull was that my fontanel, the soft spot at the top of my skull, remained soft until I was about 60 permitting my brain to grow a bit or leaving space for the insertion of an antenna. Since I do not rate myself as being more than slightly brighter than average it seems no to have conferred any major novel capabilities.
Yeah, the aliens tend to do that (forget to close the fontanel) when a newbie starts.
Your wicked smart too Sand. You're just a bit of an as*hole is all.
Ah yes. The as*hole. Another port for an antenna. Our appraisals of each other seem mutual.
Fuzzy wrote:
Magnus wrote:
Yeah, the aliens tend to do that (forget to close the fontanel) when a newbie starts.
Your wicked smart too Sand. You're just a bit of an as*hole is all.
Your wicked smart too Sand. You're just a bit of an as*hole is all.
I actually laughed aloud at this. Magnus, you have a wicked sense of humour.
I'm glad someone laughed. It's a full moon and I can't sleep...
I want to start a new religion (that no one takes seriously yet they pretend to believe just for fun) and in this religion we will have a party during every full moon. We will howl too.
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As long as man continues to be the ruthless destroyer of lower living beings he will never know health or peace. For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other.
-Pythagoras
Magnus wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
Magnus wrote:
Yeah, the aliens tend to do that (forget to close the fontanel) when a newbie starts.
Your wicked smart too Sand. You're just a bit of an as*hole is all.
Your wicked smart too Sand. You're just a bit of an as*hole is all.
I actually laughed aloud at this. Magnus, you have a wicked sense of humour.
I'm glad someone laughed. It's a full moon and I can't sleep...
I want to start a new religion (that no one takes seriously yet they pretend to believe just for fun) and in this religion we will have a party during every full moon. We will howl too.
And no doubt be executed by Sarah Palin from a low flying aircraft.
Sarah Palin is a meanie.
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As long as man continues to be the ruthless destroyer of lower living beings he will never know health or peace. For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other.
-Pythagoras
Laconvivencia wrote:
I do not think hitler wanted an superor race of aspies, remember when hitler gassed the mentally ill?
Then you're succumbing to the notion that aspies are mentally ill? It's fascinating that some aspies think everybody else is mentally ill and some think they are.
Sand wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:
I do not think hitler wanted an superor race of aspies, remember when hitler gassed the mentally ill?
Then you're succumbing to the notion that aspies are mentally ill? It's fascinating that some aspies think everybody else is mentally ill and some think they are.
If i was a Non Jewish Aspie in Nazi Germany, would i been gassed
Laconvivencia wrote:
Sand wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:
I do not think hitler wanted an superor race of aspies, remember when hitler gassed the mentally ill?
Then you're succumbing to the notion that aspies are mentally ill? It's fascinating that some aspies think everybody else is mentally ill and some think they are.
If i was a Non Jewish Aspie in Nazi Germany, would i been gassed
Even if you were a blue eyed blond uncircumcised?
Sand wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:
Sand wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:
I do not think hitler wanted an superor race of aspies, remember when hitler gassed the mentally ill?
Then you're succumbing to the notion that aspies are mentally ill? It's fascinating that some aspies think everybody else is mentally ill and some think they are.
If i was a Non Jewish Aspie in Nazi Germany, would i been gassed
Even if you were a blue eyed blond uncircumcised?
do not know for sure, If i was a non Jewish Aspie who was blue eyed blond and uncircumcised, would i be gassed?
Yupa wrote:
The connection between Nazi Germany and Asperger's Syndrome is undeniable.
Goebels certainly showed many signs of Asperger's Syndrome, as did other influential figures under Hitler such as Albert Speer, Lief Reifenstahl, and even Adolph Hitler himself.
If there's one thing anyone who's ever cracked an elementary history text knows, it's that the Nazis were trying to breed a master race: the Aryans.
Now, as we all know, Asperger's Syndrome is a predominantly white, and especially Northern European, disorder. Who better matches this description than the ideal Aryan race, who, like Aspies, were supposed to be of superior intelligence? It is easily possible that the traits Hitler saw in the ideal Aryan were the traits of an Aspie. Contrast these with the stereotypical Jewish traits that the Nazis sought to root out in humanity: greed and deception, both of which are typically uncharacteristic of the ever honest Aspie.
It is very possible that Hitler, by killing the Jews, blacks, gypsies, etc. and leaving the pure-bred white northern European, would have created a world in which Autism, specifically Asperger's Syndrome, was far more predominant, in a way that could have benefited an Aryan utopia.
In fact, since caucasians are just about the youngest and most recent ethnic group of them all due to environmental adaptation and genetic mutation, it is possible that their newer genetic traits and the caucasian's European environment (which requires a person to stay indoors most if not all of the year) would have seen a more obvious emergence of aspie traits, along with allowing the mutations and shifts in human evolution to occur that would allow for the introduction of Asperger's.
In fact, it is quite possible that those with Asperger's are a new strain of human that may at some point go on to replace the neurotypical, who is slowly but surely dying out while the aspie survives.
Goebels certainly showed many signs of Asperger's Syndrome, as did other influential figures under Hitler such as Albert Speer, Lief Reifenstahl, and even Adolph Hitler himself.
If there's one thing anyone who's ever cracked an elementary history text knows, it's that the Nazis were trying to breed a master race: the Aryans.
Now, as we all know, Asperger's Syndrome is a predominantly white, and especially Northern European, disorder. Who better matches this description than the ideal Aryan race, who, like Aspies, were supposed to be of superior intelligence? It is easily possible that the traits Hitler saw in the ideal Aryan were the traits of an Aspie. Contrast these with the stereotypical Jewish traits that the Nazis sought to root out in humanity: greed and deception, both of which are typically uncharacteristic of the ever honest Aspie.
It is very possible that Hitler, by killing the Jews, blacks, gypsies, etc. and leaving the pure-bred white northern European, would have created a world in which Autism, specifically Asperger's Syndrome, was far more predominant, in a way that could have benefited an Aryan utopia.
In fact, since caucasians are just about the youngest and most recent ethnic group of them all due to environmental adaptation and genetic mutation, it is possible that their newer genetic traits and the caucasian's European environment (which requires a person to stay indoors most if not all of the year) would have seen a more obvious emergence of aspie traits, along with allowing the mutations and shifts in human evolution to occur that would allow for the introduction of Asperger's.
In fact, it is quite possible that those with Asperger's are a new strain of human that may at some point go on to replace the neurotypical, who is slowly but surely dying out while the aspie survives.
This is exceptional, even for some of your posts, Yupa. You make grotesque comments and stereotypes, resting on inaccurate assumptions and outright leaps of illogic... If you can source anything you assert, I'd welcome the opportunity to examine where your 'data' has come from.
A "pure-bred white Northern European" is a myth... one used heavily by those who are afraid. Humanity are all mutts; some just inbred more than others.
M.
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