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John_Browning
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18 Sep 2009, 12:45 am
zer0netgain wrote:
Sadly, a revolution is coming. The elites in D.C. disregard what the vast majority of the nation values and does what it wants. That's not how government works, and people are getting sick of it. The legitimate means to effect change just don't work anymore. You can't get real "change" to happen because the elite control who can get into office...always those who will push the elite's policies and more of the same old deal.
What values?
The ranting and complaining about "elite" and "moral majority" are tired themes that have been repetitively rambled about since Reagan and recently revitalized by that unfortunate exemplar of political power than is Sarah Palin.
Who are you to declare who and what the 'vast majority' of the 'nation [sic] values' are?
You are not really, becoming any more different than the government here in Singapore that will shoot down movements and bills to introduce equal treatment of homosexuals by citing the "Asian values" that the supposed majority of the people here value. Are you God? 
18 Sep 2009, 12:53 am
NEWater wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
Sadly, a revolution is coming. The elites in D.C. disregard what the vast majority of the nation values and does what it wants. That's not how government works, and people are getting sick of it. The legitimate means to effect change just don't work anymore. You can't get real "change" to happen because the elite control who can get into office...always those who will push the elite's policies and more of the same old deal.
What values?
The ranting and complaining about "elite" and "moral majority" are tired themes that have been repetitively rambled about since Reagan and recently revitalized by that unfortunate exemplar of political power than is Sarah Palin.
Who are you to declare who and what the 'vast majority' of the 'nation [sic] values' are?
You are not really, becoming any more different than the government here in Singapore that will shoot down movements and bills to introduce equal treatment of homosexuals by citing the "Asian values" that the supposed majority of the people here value. Are you God? China's roads will soon be paved with gold....how absurd, huh?
18 Sep 2009, 1:11 am
skafather84 wrote:
NEWater wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
Sadly, a revolution is coming. The elites in D.C. disregard what the vast majority of the nation values and does what it wants. That's not how government works, and people are getting sick of it. The legitimate means to effect change just don't work anymore. You can't get real "change" to happen because the elite control who can get into office...always those who will push the elite's policies and more of the same old deal.
What values?
The ranting and complaining about "elite" and "moral majority" are tired themes that have been repetitively rambled about since Reagan and recently revitalized by that unfortunate exemplar of political power than is Sarah Palin.
Who are you to declare who and what the 'vast majority' of the 'nation [sic] values' are?
You are not really, becoming any more different than the government here in Singapore that will shoot down movements and bills to introduce equal treatment of homosexuals by citing the "Asian values" that the supposed majority of the people here value. Are you God? China's roads will soon be paved with gold....how absurd, huh?
China has been out of the empire business for a few centuries and I suppose it is time they had their crack at it again. The population is marvelously industrious, inventive and probably no more brutal than anybody else who has plunged into the silly business of trying to make humans behave vaguely rationally. No doubt they will also have their major failures.
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18 Sep 2009, 10:37 am
skafather84 wrote:
NEWater wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
Sadly, a revolution is coming. The elites in D.C. disregard what the vast majority of the nation values and does what it wants. That's not how government works, and people are getting sick of it. The legitimate means to effect change just don't work anymore. You can't get real "change" to happen because the elite control who can get into office...always those who will push the elite's policies and more of the same old deal.
What values?
The ranting and complaining about "elite" and "moral majority" are tired themes that have been repetitively rambled about since Reagan and recently revitalized by that unfortunate exemplar of political power than is Sarah Palin.
Who are you to declare who and what the 'vast majority' of the 'nation [sic] values' are?
You are not really, becoming any more different than the government here in Singapore that will shoot down movements and bills to introduce equal treatment of homosexuals by citing the "Asian values" that the supposed majority of the people here value. Are you God? China's roads will soon be paved with gold....how absurd, huh?
I'm not sure how the "China" tangent managed to get in here when I mentioned Singapore. I know that fifty states are really difficult to remember in Geography class, good sir, but if a foreigner like I is capable of remembering where and what all the fifty states are, so can you.
18 Sep 2009, 2:14 pm
NEWater wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
NEWater wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
Sadly, a revolution is coming. The elites in D.C. disregard what the vast majority of the nation values and does what it wants. That's not how government works, and people are getting sick of it. The legitimate means to effect change just don't work anymore. You can't get real "change" to happen because the elite control who can get into office...always those who will push the elite's policies and more of the same old deal.
What values?
The ranting and complaining about "elite" and "moral majority" are tired themes that have been repetitively rambled about since Reagan and recently revitalized by that unfortunate exemplar of political power than is Sarah Palin.
Who are you to declare who and what the 'vast majority' of the 'nation [sic] values' are?
You are not really, becoming any more different than the government here in Singapore that will shoot down movements and bills to introduce equal treatment of homosexuals by citing the "Asian values" that the supposed majority of the people here value. Are you God? China's roads will soon be paved with gold....how absurd, huh?
I'm not sure how the "China" tangent managed to get in here when I mentioned Singapore. I know that fifty states are really difficult to remember in Geography class, good sir, but if a foreigner like I is capable of remembering where and what all the fifty states are, so can you.
Next empire. It's something you wouldn't understand being from Singapore.
18 Sep 2009, 3:50 pm
skafather84 wrote:
Next empire. It's something you wouldn't understand being from Singapore.
Wonderful! Let's play the Amazing Glenn Beck Paranoia Game.
The United States invades multiple nations over the decades, sets up military bases everywhere and call it liberation.
A different nation pours money into other nations and it becomes an empire! Sir, I'd like you to honestly, define what you think an 'empire' is. 'Empire' is the occupation of territory via coercion. Do you reckon that investment from a nation that still respects a leader who said 'Power comes from the barrel of the gun' equates to aspirations of empire when they're still, busily trying to resolve their issues at home?
http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8611.html
Most people who're interested in China in this day and age, would've already read and known of this book. I suggest that you do the very same.
I'm very much aware of what's going on in, and with China, Mr Supremely Enlightened American sir. Or shall I say 'Suh' while you call me 'boy', as you would've liked it 300 years ago?
I know Joe Wilson would've enjoyed it for certain.
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