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They're out now because the current mob in power are equally dissing the Constitution, in their eyes.

And using a gutter term for little old ladies and other ordinary folk, who've never previously been involved in politics but are very worried about what will happen to their healthcare, is not a winning argument, IMO.

The Tea Party movement is not a Republican front - GOP congresspeople get booed at the meetings too. It is about a too comfortable political class that has become comfortable in D.C. They've stopped representing their electorates in Washington, and are representing Washington in their electorates. And the little folks are finally tired enough of it all to finally say something about it.

November 2010 will be a bloodbath in Congress, quite possibly on both sides of the aisle.

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I can't disagree, but again this has been going on for the last 40 years. Where have they been?

The reason they are being called racist is because their opinions have no basis in fact. Therefore, people assume it is based on the ignorance of racism. Again, taxes for the middle class are NOT going up. So, you're having this tea party to protest WHAT again?

I'm one of those Tea Partiers, so I'll help elaborate on the reasons for the protests (or at least MY reasons for it).

It's not about simple taxes, the prime focus is really on the SPENDING. As it stands right now, 50 Cents of every Dollar the Federal Gov't is spending to fund all of these massive programs, is borrowed, from countries like China, Japan, Saudi Arabia and England. Right now we're running a National Debt of upwards toward 11 TRILLION dollars, with an additional 59 TRILLION dollars of unfunded liabilities for Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid and Prescription Drugs. We're currently running around a 40 Billion dollar trade deficit in addition to all that, indicative of the fact that our country has lost much of our manufacturing base to outsourcing. So basically, we owe the world a heck of a lot of money, and it needs to get paid back.

Yes, this has been going on for DECADES, through many administrations, especially becoming a bigger issue under Bush's time in office... but then began the Bank Bail-outs, which is really where the start of these protests began if you can remember, the street demonstrations weren't very organized or covered much by the media, but the phone calls overwhelming the switchboards at Washington DC was to send a message to our elected officials that we did NOT want our taxpayer's dollars going toward propping up failed corporations... but then we were ignored, not just by Bush and Congress, but by McCain and Obama too, who if I recall correctly, both suspended their campaigns in order to rush to Washington to vote for the bail-outs. They weren't yet called tea parties then, and people were still hopeful that the coming election might change all that somehow.

Well it didn't, things just kept getting worse. We got the 700 Billion dollar Sedative... err I mean Stimulus Package, and then we got the Federal Reserve printing up 1.2 Trillion dollars out of nowhere to give to foreign Central Banks and refuses to disclose to even Congress precisely who received that money, and then we had the House (but not yet the Senate) pass the Cap & Trade Bill, which will tax the heck out of energy and fuel to the tune of hundreds to thousands per household per year, and now we've got a Healthcare Bill that will cost hundreds of Billions too.

Sure, Income Taxes on the Middle Class may not be going up, but with an Energy Tax hike, they'll suffer all the same! Borrowing money, something we've become very used to doing to run our economy in the image of Keynes, is nothing less than a Tax on the Future: it must be paid back eventually! Our creditor nations listed earlier will eventually realize we do not have the will or ability to pay back any of what we owe, so in the next few years (as they're already talking about dropping the dollar as the Reserve Currency in the world in favor of the Chinese Yuan, or a yet unproductive new global currency), they will cease lending to us, suddenly leaving 50% of our Government spending unfunded. The only possible responses to this would be to increase taxes substantially, or inflate the currency substantially... and inflation again is another form of taxation; it's an immediate and hidden tax on savings. This will hurt the poor the most since the costs of day-to-day needs will rise and wages aren't likely to increase as quickly or as proportionately to keep up.

So yeah, that's my long-winded explanation about why I do it, and I'd say many Tea Partiers are along similar lines. We simply cannot afford what the Government has been doing, and definitely can't afford what it wants to do! It's difficult for us to feel secure with a promise that we won't have a middle class tax increase, when we know the Government is an Octopus with many other arms to rob us with capable of finding our pockets.

And it's not like we'd magically be okay with any of this happening if it was Joe Biden in charge instead.

And of course your history never teaches that the original reason for tossing the tea was because it was imported by smugglers who were angry because Britain actually dropped the tax, killing their profit margins. It was the smugglers who started throwing it overboard... useless to them.

Not a Merikann, sorry.



It was a protest about a foreign power making tax (in this case "tariff") policy that disadvantaged locals, and that they had no recourse to the British parliament. You know that stuff about "taxation" and "representation".

It's always producers, not consumers, who whinge about cheaper competition - cf. the whole Netscape vs. Microsoft crap.

Regardless of 1773, the tea-partiers of today are a little concerned at the breathtaking speed with which increasingly large stimulus injections have been dwarfing their predecessors. And a whole raft of other things that weren't part of The President's election campaign, but now are important parts of his policy directions.

1. You're a troll......
2. Or you don't know what it means.

Teabagging a sexual reference to have a boys bag in your mouth

I'm NO teabagger, and I will would not like to be it.

1. You're a troll......
2. Or you don't know what it means.

Teabagging a sexual reference to have a boys bag in your mouth

I'm NO teabagger, and I will would not like to become teabagged.

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Both are true-when the protests began the protesters would tie a tea bag to their car antennae to remind people of the Boston Tea Party which is a significant event in American History symbolizing resistance to tyranny. Fuzzy is probably right-you know they say history is written by the winners. Others that thought it was kind of ironic that suddenly when we have a dark-skinned President they are so concerned with the spending although George Bush is the one who got us in this mess in the first place. They seem to think Obama should be able to undo 8 years of catastrophe in 8 months. In order to tease them they started to refer to them as the teabaggers to reference the sexual practice. As for the bank bail outs? The banks were supposed to use the money to start lending again and they didn't. The teabaggers should be protesting Wall Street more.

If it was wrong when Bush overspent, why is it right, now, to spend even more?

Why are they coming out now, instead of before? Maybe beacuse 4 trillion is a lot more noticeable than1.5 trillion. Especially if you've got to somehow pay for it.

And a lot of people aren't complaining that Govt hasn't fixed things yet - they're complaining that Govt. keeps trying!

I just think Obama is being particularly targeted. Plus Bush spent the money on things that drain our resources even more. Obama is trying to jump start the economy and it's not working because of the selfishness and greed of the banks.

Conversely, if it was okay for Bush to spend over a trillion dollars on a pointless war with a nation that offered us no threat, for reasons that kept being changed (and, in Orwellian fashion, previous justifications being denied by the very people who had offered them), why is it wrong, now, to spend a lesser amount on, for instance, improving health care and transportation infrastructure here in the United States?

(And don't talk to me about the bailouts - that one was conceived and carried out during the waning days of the Bush presidency.)

oh yes so nasty. i would suck my own balls though if i could

You are all completely neglecting the fact that it would cost too much NOT to fix our healthcare system. The one and only goal of the insurance industry is to make profits. To do so they must deny claims and raise premiums, as we've all been witness to. Premiums are going up at a rate much higher than inflation and more people than ever before are having claims rejected, or even having their policies cancelled. New, low caps are being placed on policies and pre-existing conditions are preventing many from even obtaining insurance. At the rate we are going, more and more Americans will be completely uninsured as they will not be able to afford the premiums and many more employers will be dropping healthcare benefits altogether. This is, indeed, a time of national crisis as more than 2/3 of bankruptcies claimed are due to medical circumstances. I haven't even mentioned the humanitarian aspect.

I cannot even fathom why a sane and logical person would try to defend the insurance industry if they did not stand to have a personal monetary gain. Insurance companies are nothing but a middle man. They do not provide healthcare or even any valuable service. They take your money, pocket 30% for profits and bonuses, and then write a check to your doctor - if you're lucky. If the government were to write the checks, as they do for medicare/medicaid/VA, that's an instant savings of 30% - without any sacrafice of the quality of care. The end result would be to reduce healthcare costs for all. If you have insurance, you're already paying for it, as well as for those who do not have insurance. As a nation, reform would bring our healthcare costs DOWN, ultimately reducing our deficit. This is not about spending more, but saving more.

It has been calculated that about 45,000 people die each year unnecessarily for lack of health insurance. Although the tragedy of 9/11 killed less than 4000 people and was a horrible event, the amount of money spent on the resulting military efforts is not questioned whereas the much greater tragedy of medical insufficiency seems to be a problem.

See http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/09/18/ ... y-report/5

but scaring little old ladies that they are going to be in front of DEATH PANELS and having their Medicare ELIMINATED is just dandy, right?

the tea baggers wholeheartedly embraced the title "TeaBaggers" first, no one GAVE them that name but themselves.