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TitusLucretiusCarus
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02 Oct 2009, 11:22 am

^^The Onion



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02 Oct 2009, 10:54 pm

Iraq only started a nuclear weapons programme after the Israeli attack. The plant that was attacked was for producing energy. This is not required to build a bomb.



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02 Oct 2009, 10:56 pm

See http://www.counterpunch.org/cloughley10022009.html



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02 Oct 2009, 11:15 pm

ruveyn wrote:
But every one, including the Europeans will blame the Jews. Everybody blames the Jews. Even Paul the Apostle.

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Do you have a chapter and verse for that? I've read the entire New Testament several times over and I never piciked up on Paul blaming the Jews for anything, and he was half Jewish as well.


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03 Oct 2009, 12:55 am

The world has become too namby-pamby for anything nuclear.



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03 Oct 2009, 1:44 am

TitusLucretiusCarus wrote:
Pilger article on current events around Iran

Any thoughts?


Endless war. Almost a paraphrase of -1984-.

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03 Oct 2009, 9:09 am

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The world has become too namby-pamby for anything nuclear.


If your man or womanhood needs bulwarking by incinerating hundreds of thousands of innocent people I really have little sympathy for your idiocy.



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03 Oct 2009, 9:15 am

Well put Psych! I cracked up laughing.
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03 Oct 2009, 11:51 am

Sand wrote:

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The world has become too namby-pamby for anything nuclear.


If your man or womanhood needs bulwarking by incinerating hundreds of thousands of innocent people I really have little sympathy for your idiocy.



Nobody who permits terrorists to thrive among them or meaningless wars to begin is innocent and that includes us for starting the Iraq war.



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03 Oct 2009, 12:12 pm

Coadunate wrote:
Sand wrote:

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The world has become too namby-pamby for anything nuclear.


If your man or womanhood needs bulwarking by incinerating hundreds of thousands of innocent people I really have little sympathy for your idiocy.



Nobody who permits terrorists to thrive among them or meaningless wars to begin is innocent and that includes us for starting the Iraq war.


Whatever the official characterization, terrorists are criminals who murder. If you have a method for eliminating all murderers at one fell swoop I'm sure many police organizations would be fascinated.



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03 Oct 2009, 12:27 pm

Coadunate wrote:
Sand wrote:

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The world has become too namby-pamby for anything nuclear.


If your man or womanhood needs bulwarking by incinerating hundreds of thousands of innocent people I really have little sympathy for your idiocy.



Nobody who permits terrorists to thrive among them or meaningless wars to begin is innocent and that includes us for starting the Iraq war.


I'm so glad I got out of southern cali.


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03 Oct 2009, 12:29 pm

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Nobody who permits terrorists to thrive among them or meaningless wars to begin is innocent and that includes us for starting the Iraq war.


If that's in reference to the taliban in afghanistan then they did offer to turn Bin Laden over to a clerical court or some such thing, however, the US government wasn't interested in Bin Laden in the least, he was a pretext, at least when compared to the prospect of an indefinite military presence in what is a key region for controlling oil and gas in the central asian states.



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03 Oct 2009, 12:48 pm

TitusLucretiusCarus wrote:
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Nobody who permits terrorists to thrive among them or meaningless wars to begin is innocent and that includes us for starting the Iraq war.


If that's in reference to the taliban in afghanistan then they did offer to turn Bin Laden over to a clerical court or some such thing, however, the US government wasn't interested in Bin Laden in the least, he was a pretext, at least when compared to the prospect of an indefinite military presence in what is a key region for controlling oil and gas in the central asian states.


Bin Laden is most likely still on the US payroll.


As far as starting unjust wars, I don't blame the people for that because the propaganda machine is more than cunning enough to exonerate most people from any legitimate guilt. However, it just makes the marriage of private enterprises and government that much more atrocious and more reason for their heads to be on spikes, not on TV.


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03 Oct 2009, 1:06 pm

agreed



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03 Oct 2009, 2:06 pm

Oh come now; I have Ach-meinherijads' complete assurance that should nuclear weapons be created, that they would turn them over to the US and Israel's capital cities by the fastest method of transportation available...;)


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03 Oct 2009, 2:07 pm

Coadunate wrote:
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Nobody who permits terrorists to thrive among them or meaningless wars to begin is innocent and that includes us for starting the Iraq war.


Saddam Hussein started the Iraq war(s) with his invasion of Kuwait.

While the U.S. made some monumentally ill founded assessments of Sadam's WMD program it is a fact that Sadam killed off 15,000 Kurds with poison gas. He also attempted to gain a nuclear capability, which the Israelis fortunately aborted in 1981. Sadam was a bad actor from the git-go. Of course that does not excuse the lies (or severely stretched guesses) that the Bush administration foisted on the world in 2003.

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