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09 Feb 2006, 5:34 pm

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All those things can be explained.. It's all online in psychopathology.. None can be proven.. I make myself mad all the time with my logical thoughts..

self is just a word, inside in thought we all exist no matter what we want to refer it to.


Are you a Hume fan?


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09 Feb 2006, 5:40 pm

Nope never read him.. I usually come up with ideas then get mad that someone already made them.. A previous doctor of mine compared my thoughts to cognitive sciences, so I might get a textbook on that as well as criminology then maybe onto an overview of terrorism from the perspective of psychology.

My interests are all similar, so I do not know what I will do next after that.. IT will only take 4-5 months to feel I have a good general understanding. Not a professional nor have delusion of knowing anything for certain, subjectivism.



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09 Feb 2006, 5:57 pm

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Nope never read him.. I usually come up with ideas then get mad that someone already made them.. A previous doctor of mine compared my thoughts to cognitive sciences, so I might get a textbook on that as well as criminology then maybe onto an overview of terrorism from the perspective of psychology.

My interests are all similar, so I do not know what I will do next after that.. IT will only take 4-5 months to feel I have a good general understanding. Not a professional nor have delusion of knowing anything for certain, subjectivism.


Hume is great.
He came up with Dialectical Reasoning (or was that Heggel?)
He is so influential that the Internet Encyclopedia on Philosophy has several pages on him.

Bio
http://www.iep.utm.edu/h/humelife.htm
Writtings
Metaphysics and Epistemology
http://www.iep.utm.edu/h/humeepis.htm
Moral Theory
http://www.iep.utm.edu/h/humemora.htm
Religion
http://www.iep.utm.edu/h/humereli.htm
Essays: Moral, Political and Literary
http://www.iep.utm.edu/h/humeessa.htm


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09 Feb 2006, 8:25 pm

Ok I will take a look this evening..

The internet is becoming boring so I am trying to figure out what to do to talk to smart people. For instance visiting one of the numerous colleges here to sit in on classes, I’d enjoy stumping them all with my thoughts and making the professors feel stupid :P. Laugh Snort

I just got back from the ocean. I saw a student driver with a teacher, to learn to drive I might have to hire that service, however it seems complicated. I'd rather not drive.

Complexities.

Philosophia is mind origin.



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10 Feb 2006, 3:45 am

The process in Psychology called Dialectical Reasoning was not developed by Hume.
It was developed by Hegel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegel

Dialectical Reasoning is a fancy term for "Common Sense"
It is where you play the pros and cons against each other for a conclusion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_reasoning

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Pro
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     Con

Synthesis

          Pro
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              Con

Synthesis

                    Pro
                        \
                         Con

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10 Feb 2006, 4:04 am

hmm...

A pro and a con cannot really ultimately be determined concerning an originator complex applied to universal origins.

It's really common sense to me, logical and quite clear that for the process of evolution to take place, there would have to be something to have started the process. It perhaps is not easy to accept an always, minds typically from my observations cannot fathom timeless forever-ness. For lack of better terminology, I believe it is a human limitation.

Of course the originator complex in how I have put it can also support a creationist point of view as well. A big bang could still have happened, or really just an event of great change and ciaos. Still yet to have the original process take place, would have to have something exist for it.

The containment of space, the area to me has no limits. It's illogical to say the universe ends, but still a point can exist where either gravitational forces are to great or cease to exist. That however would be on the outer limits of filled space to regions where there is absents of "things".

Psychology has it’s limits..



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10 Feb 2006, 4:09 am

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hmm...

A pro and a con cannot really ultimately be determined concerning an originator complex applied to universal origins.

It's really common sense to me, logical and quite clear that for the process of evolution to take place, there would have to be something to have started the process. It perhaps is not easy to accept an always, minds typically from my observations cannot fathom timeless forever-ness. For lack of better terminology, I believe it is a human limitation.

Of course the originator complex in how I have put it can also support a creationist point of view as well. A big bang could still have happened, or really just an event of great change and ciaos. Still yet to have the original process take place, would have to have something exist for it.

The containment of space, the area to me has no limits. It's illogical to say the universe ends, but still a point can exist where either gravitational forces are to great or cease to exist. That however would be on the outer limits of filled space to regions where there is absents of "things".

Psychology has it’s limits..


In math we call that the imaginary realm.
where if you take the sqr root of -1 it is imaginary.
I am not at the stage in math yet (not 4th year). However, it is called complex numbers.
On a graph known as the "fourth dimension"
I think in physics, it is the idea behind folding space...
Also in Satellites, Electronics and other things.


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10 Feb 2006, 4:16 am

Yes imagination, but still math is limited and cannot contain such reasonings.. There is no original formula.. Thinking freely as I know I have no clue how gravity maths are or much about some things I'd like to learn.

Remember mind is product of it's environment and collective experience, math was created by mind. The universe contains it...

Math cannot explain origination in this manner, without madness.



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10 Feb 2006, 8:50 am

CRAZY

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268978/

I watched this movie many times

Just remember this guy.. Math’s and esotericism do not mix. Esoteric (supernatural) really are beyond the stable minded theories. Really the originator complex instead of the mathematical formula for the universe beginning from a point of singularity (event) as mind did (birth or prenatal *sensation feeling*). It all psychologically explains mind origination as the universes origination like the point of origination of the theoretical imagined universe. Time psychologically is really of mind and external change and process. Yet beyond the conditioned mind from awareness and societal programming what is not known is simply imagined into.

A great wisdom exists in these simple unknowns...So does a great madness or possibly. Yet the universe in origin though infinite like the universe is wide countless and numerous it’s within depth never stopping.

I'd draw a mental picture of a hand holding a marble universe and each marble containing infinite other universes.. Nothing of it can be believed: P

Least I know with religion it can be directed like a movie, no not like Hollywood but in its programmers. Sort of odd language, no I am not intending to say a software is minds, but rather that social evolution can change with numerous groups or types of beliefs at a time as certain truths are found amass. So it may stabilize or self-destruct itself, change and or settle or unsettle.

When no belief exists, so does the cold of heart, lack of passion, reduce respects and horrid humanities. No not all the time, but it is true none the less. IT might be a fragile balance for even what is both non-belief and belief both have its extremes, its negative and positives. Yet destiny is simply imagined, like jello all wiggly or a bolder rock or a pebble in a pond, society as a whole.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268978/

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12 Feb 2006, 4:00 am

That movie made me cry, no joking.
Russel Crowe deserved the award.

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A great wisdom exists in these simple unknowns...So does a great madness or possibly. Yet the universe in origin though infinite like the universe is wide countless and numerous it’s within depth never stopping.

I'd draw a mental picture of a hand holding a marble universe and each marble containing infinite other universes.. Nothing of it can be believed: P

Least I know with religion it can be directed like a movie, no not like Hollywood but in its programmers. Sort of odd language, no I am not intending to say a software is minds, but rather that social evolution can change with numerous groups or types of beliefs at a time as certain truths are found amass. So it may stabilize or self-destruct itself, change and or settle or unsettle.


You mean like the Oracle at Delphi?
Or "Religion is the opiate of the people," Marx.

The question I have is of death.
There is a possibility that humans can live for 1500 years, if we preserve the mind intact.


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12 Feb 2006, 4:13 am

Hyperbaric biosphere, age is highly environmental.



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12 Feb 2006, 4:24 am

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Hyperbaric biosphere, age is highly environmental.


I was 16.
It is rare for me to cry (since 11 years old)


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12 Feb 2006, 5:59 am

16 concerning what context of the conversation?



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20 Feb 2006, 2:42 pm

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16 concerning what context of the conversation?


"age is highly emotional"

What is your conclusions about God with further research?


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20 Feb 2006, 2:46 pm

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My idea of what God would be (again assuming existence) that everyone is God. There is no "self" because we are all God. Those elements are in Budhism as well.
So . . . assuming the existence of God . . . we might exist as well? I don't get it.


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