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12 Oct 2009, 11:21 am

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Also, fbthew, I thought it was the left-wingers you had a problem with? Fascism is on the extreme right, not the left.


Not to hijack this thread but this is something I've actually been wondering about recently. Why is fascism considered an extreme right philosophy? The way I understand it, it seems a lot closer to the extreme left. Maybe I have too modern and American view of what "the right" is.



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12 Oct 2009, 11:29 am

Jacoby wrote:
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Also, fbthew, I thought it was the left-wingers you had a problem with? Fascism is on the extreme right, not the left.


Not to hijack this thread but this is something I've actually been wondering about recently. Why is fascism considered an extreme right philosophy? The way I understand it, it seems a lot closer to the extreme left. Maybe I have too modern and American view of what "the right" is.


Not sure, I think it has to do with the style of government rule. Historically, there have been a lot of despots, so that would be considered a conservative government style since it's been tried more often. Something completely new and out-of-the-blue, like communism, would be considered more liberal since it's a new style.


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12 Oct 2009, 1:38 pm

There are a ton of us that could only be called fiscal conservatives.

As far as social issues go, my portion of Canadian society believes strongly in minding their own business and to live and let live. These are very much conservative values from a time when the ethnic groups here were persecuted. That someone is gay or brown doesnt matter. What matters that they are also quiet, hard working and accepting of others.


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12 Oct 2009, 1:55 pm

Jacoby wrote:
pat2rome wrote:
Also, fbthew, I thought it was the left-wingers you had a problem with? Fascism is on the extreme right, not the left.


Not to hijack this thread but this is something I've actually been wondering about recently. Why is fascism considered an extreme right philosophy? The way I understand it, it seems a lot closer to the extreme left. Maybe I have too modern and American view of what "the right" is.


Fascists promoted an extreme sense of nationalism.

America's Right Wing also promotes a high level of nationalism.

Fascists were anti-Gay and anti-Minority. America's Republican Party is anti-Gay, and anti-Minority.

Take America's Right Wing to its extreme, and you have fascism.



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12 Oct 2009, 2:04 pm

I thought most of the hatemongers were apolitical anyway.


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12 Oct 2009, 2:14 pm

The left does of course have its own venues from which they spread their own sort of fascism, one of which is called the "Canadian Human Rights Council" or CHRC for short, where people are convicted for mindcrimes. Although inherent to the right wing, to the left is flirting with it, too.



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12 Oct 2009, 2:17 pm

pandabear wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
pat2rome wrote:
Also, fbthew, I thought it was the left-wingers you had a problem with? Fascism is on the extreme right, not the left.


Not to hijack this thread but this is something I've actually been wondering about recently. Why is fascism considered an extreme right philosophy? The way I understand it, it seems a lot closer to the extreme left. Maybe I have too modern and American view of what "the right" is.


Fascists promoted an extreme sense of nationalism.

America's Right Wing also promotes a high level of nationalism.

Fascists were anti-Gay and anti-Minority. America's Republican Party is anti-Gay, and anti-Minority.

Take America's Right Wing to its extreme, and you have fascism.

Isn't statism a fundamental part of fascism? That's completely contradictory to the right in America in my opinion who preach(what they actually do in Washington is another thing :roll:) individualism and small government.



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12 Oct 2009, 2:31 pm

Our society is generally more left-wing than right-wing, and the Internet tends to be populated by young people who are more likely to be left-wing. Plus there are people from all countries here and most countries are more left-wing than the USA. There's not much you can do about it besides moving to a forum specifically for people with your views.



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12 Oct 2009, 9:29 pm

Welcome to WP.


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DEFINITION OF GROUP SOCIAL CAPITAL
The set of resources made available to a group through group members’ social relationships within the social structure of the group itself, as well as in the broader formal and informal structure of the organization. Group social capital is a metaconstruct composed of both the set of resources flowing through relationship conduits and the configuration of the conduits themselves...

First, the group itself has a social structure and must be considered both as a whole and as an aggregate of its parts. Group members can be heterogeneous in terms of their position in the vertical hierarchy or in the horizontal division of labor. Groups can also have multiple subgroups whose goals and desires have varying overlap with the overall group’s goals and desires.

In the same way that having financial capital invested in multiple financial accounts might affect one’s ability to tap into those resources quickly, group social capital is affected by the existence of subgroups that can affect the group’s information processing capability...

Beyond these instrumental benefits, social ties also bring expressive benefits such as emotional support, an often undervalued and underresearched resource. There are many times when setbacks might destroy morale, or when unexpected tragedies might cause a group to lose its focus, and social ties are called on to assist and support.
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12 Oct 2009, 11:45 pm

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14 Oct 2009, 4:32 am

@ the op what a load of crap. The make up of ppr goes from borderline fascist to marxist, creationist to absolute atheist etc . What you will find is that if a question is banal, ill conceived, stupid etc it will either receive no replies or vitriol.

So stop your sooking and post something that is worthy of thought from a very diverse group of people.

posting a topic "irrational women" you deserve any and all flames that you get. From all sides of politics and religion


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