fat BNp leader Nick "Creosote" Griffin on question

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23 Oct 2009, 5:51 am

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oh dear


Oh look, another liberal who cannot put an argument together.

What next? A "smiley face rolling its eyes"?


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23 Oct 2009, 6:01 am

I got bored after about 20 minutes. I'm sick of hearing about the BNP - they're boring but free speech must be a right afforded to all citizens. Can't we have a mixture of all political opinions on the show please rather than just leftist ones? There are some classical liberals out there too, y'know.



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23 Oct 2009, 6:01 am

Speaking in my official capacity as an upstanding native of ethnically pure Northern English-Southern English-Scots-Welsh-Irish-(at least) descent, I hope he's an indigenous pig. :roll: :lol:

Personally I believe this (my emphasis):

"Come all you at home with freedom,
Whatever the land that gave you birth,
There's room for you both root and branch,
So long as you love the English earth."


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23 Oct 2009, 7:11 am

All this effort to prevent him from going on TV and when he eventually does he gets showed up for the arse he is.

Sometimes you have to show bigotry for what it is. People who are bigoted already know who he is.

As for the creosote reference. Creosote is tar oil. Point?



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23 Oct 2009, 7:25 am

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Well, I just saw it.

I watched as a Black American, an ex-Communist and an Asian Muslim tried to tell an Englishman that his own people don't exist...

And that audience of hate-filled ethnic minorities made me sick. I think that was supposed to be representative of the ethnic make-up of London. Their views give a good indication of what we face in years to come as the left force their depraved multicultural hell far-and-wide across our land. This programme should have convinced any true patriot to support the BNP.



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23 Oct 2009, 7:31 am

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"I didn't say that" "It was recorded on video" "It wasn't like that at all" "It's on youtube" "... OK, well.. I might have said that, but it's only because I was with someone from the KKK" :lol:


lets be fair now, it was a 'mostly non-violent' branch of the KKK :lol:



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23 Oct 2009, 7:32 am

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All this effort to prevent him from going on TV and when he eventually does he gets showed up for the arse he is.

Sometimes you have to show bigotry for what it is. People who are bigoted already know who he is.

As for the creosote reference. Creosote is tar oil. Point?

Considering how things were clearly stacked against him, I think he did quite well. Lots of people watching would have found his views perfectly reasonable. He was obviously nervous, but remained composed. That can't be said for some of the audience and that liberal who were clearly in a state of hate-filled apoplexy. Just like all those leftist demonstrators outside the BBC earlier in the day.



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23 Oct 2009, 7:38 am

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And that audience of hate-filled ethnic minorities made me sick. I think that was supposed to be representative of the ethnic make-up of London. Their views give a good indication of what we face in years to come as the left force their depraved multicultural hell far-and-wide across our land. This programme should have convinced any true patriot to support the BNP.


As opposed to cultureless hate filled "Nativist". "Nativist" is being used ironically, as it was when it was a political party in the US.

It is funny that so often the far right nationalists are involved in very little, if any actual culture. What they are defending is nothing unique, or worth writing home about. That is because it is bigotry for bigotry sake, the rest is just excuses. Where as those who are involved in some traditional pursuits don't feel in the least bit threatened by other people doing similar.

It is very telling when every problem you have has a convenient scapegoat. And the scapegoat isn't human nature which would make you a apart of it, but rather some other whipping boy.



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23 Oct 2009, 8:09 am

People protest when they don't want something, nothing out of the ordinary there. Griffin happened to be found out for being two faced on the day. But not only has that, he been found out for conspiring on how to be two faced, with none other than the KKK.

He and his members have a history of supporting Nazi ideology and now they want to present themselves as the opposite without atoning for that fact, or taking responsibility.

Churchill would not want to hang out with traitorous weasels. The BNP have more in common with Nazi appeasers.

Also people who talk of the “Englishness” fallacy have a point. Our history is much more about many influences mixing together. The Victorians are on record of projecting a romanticised view of our history, despite the fact that neoclassism was the condiment of choice, and much of the culture during this period coming from the colonies.



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23 Oct 2009, 8:31 am

Nick Griffin has alot in common with Michael Savage.



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23 Oct 2009, 9:06 am

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Nick Griffin has alot in common with Michael Savage.

Nick Griffin and Ahmadinejad are similar too. Both nationalist, both holocaust deniers.



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23 Oct 2009, 9:38 am

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Nick Griffin has alot in common with Michael Savage.

Nick Griffin and Ahmadinejad are similar too. Both nationalist, both holocaust deniers.


leave Ahmedinejad alone. he is not anti semitic



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23 Oct 2009, 11:06 am

Laconvivencia wrote:
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Nick Griffin has alot in common with Michael Savage.

Nick Griffin and Ahmadinejad are similar too. Both nationalist, both holocaust deniers.


leave Ahmedinejad alone. he is not anti semitic

That is debatable, what isn't debatable is that he a holocaust denier on more than one occasion.



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23 Oct 2009, 12:19 pm

Laconvivencia wrote:
0_equals_true wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:
Nick Griffin has alot in common with Michael Savage.

Nick Griffin and Ahmadinejad are similar too. Both nationalist, both holocaust deniers.


leave Ahmedinejad alone. he is not anti semitic

0_equals-true's statement was factually accurate. Most Iranians (most Muslims, really) are anti-semitic, and I would expect this to probably include Ahmedinejad.


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23 Oct 2009, 12:36 pm

I hate him.

He kind of reminds me of that crazy goon, Ahmedinejad.

Just another ole' whiney hypocrite.


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23 Oct 2009, 3:13 pm

not concerned. what's the BNP's base? White long term unemployed of Lancashire and Yorkshire? not going to win many national elections with only a part of two areas at the lower end of population density in the UK. Events coming up on the political radar in the UK - 1) postal strike continues for several more weeks 2) civil servants come out on strike when government tries to hack at redundancy payments, crippling the current government 3)election called to replace dead G Brown government v early in the new year 4) NewLabour gets absolute trounced, unions step in to bring Labour back from brink after all the blair/brownites have sodded of back under the rocks they crawledly out form under - Labour becomes political arm of unions in fight against Conservative government cuts 5) large scale industrial action to continue for some time - the possibility of a general strike may appear on the horizon. 6) by now the BNP has been dropped into the void by the very people who have voted for it, mainly because they are demonstably incompetent and out of their depth at council/local government level never mind national.