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26 Jan 2010, 7:29 pm

The US has survived worse; whether it will be the country it once was remains to be seen.


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26 Jan 2010, 8:42 pm

Yes, soon we'll be living in United Soviet Socialist America (USSA).

/me throws teabags everywhere in a frenzy of disgust and outrage.



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26 Jan 2010, 9:07 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
Yes, soon we'll be living in United Soviet Socialist America (USSA).

/me throws teabags everywhere in a frenzy of disgust and outrage.


*shakes head* What a waste of perfectly good tea, and shame for it to be associated with such a reactionary group.


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26 Jan 2010, 9:22 pm

What's wrong with reacting?



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26 Jan 2010, 9:25 pm

I doubt philosophers would agree that waging war(s) constantly is a very good way of increasing production. Especially when your country is the only one left. <.<



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26 Jan 2010, 9:25 pm

Nothing, provided people know what they are reacting to and not following propaganda blindly. The problems we're facing now aren't a year old - they're nine year, 19 years, decades older. From what I've seen, the "Tea Party" is a late reaction to a problem that those just now complaining helped create.


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26 Jan 2010, 9:44 pm

makuranososhi wrote:
*shakes head* What a waste of perfectly good tea, and shame for it to be associated with such a reactionary group.


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/me throws some more bags of tea!! !! Woohoo! We're having a Tea Party! [removed, inflammatory - M.]

makuranososhi wrote:
Nothing, provided people know what they are reacting to and not following propaganda blindly. The problems we're facing now aren't a year old - they're nine year, 19 years, decades older. From what I've seen, the "Tea Party" is a late reaction to a problem that those just now complaining helped create.

Fox News told me Obama's a socialist-fascist Nazi who wants to take my freedom and bankrupt the nation!

/me throws enough tea for everyone!



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26 Jan 2010, 9:46 pm

What a waste of herbs D: Y'know in some countries people are cultivating those plants to make a living ._. .



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26 Jan 2010, 9:59 pm

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Fox News told me Obama's a socialist-fascist Nazi who wants to take my freedom and bankrupt the nation!


That doesn't surprise me in the least. The days of journalism have been dead longer than any of us care admit; it's all propaganda.


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27 Jan 2010, 8:05 am

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World War II was essentially what got us out of the Great Depression, so perhaps we need another world war to get us out of our current economic crisis. :lol:


Actually, the whole "environmental crisis" as marketed was supposed to be the answer for that issue.

At the Brenton Woods Conference, a bunch of elitists got together and debated how to keep up economic prosperity. They knew that X percent of a nations GDP has to be destroyed/consumed so that production remains a necessity, employment stays up, and money keeps flowing. However, while war does this very effectively, the risk of unintended consequences is unacceptable.

As such, they chose to make the "environment" the new boogie man to be fought. You can see the evidence of this in how virtually all environmental policies only impact the consumer, but never the military, large industry (unless the cost can easily pass on to the consumer), etc.

If production kept pace with what people really needed and little more, the whole system would collapse.



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27 Jan 2010, 9:13 am

NeantHumain wrote:
Fox News told me Obama's a socialist-fascist Nazi who wants to take my freedom and bankrupt the nation!

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Too late. We already are bankrupt.

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27 Jan 2010, 11:03 am

" The days of journalism have been dead longer than any of us care admit; it's all propaganda. " Thankfully i live in Canada, where there is some professionnal journalism left. -proud- No wonder Americans can't make right decisions if Fox tries to disinform the masses. <.<



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27 Jan 2010, 11:04 am

Sorry? I can't hear for the sound of axes grinding...;)


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28 Jan 2010, 11:50 pm

I really hope it is.
The tyrannical govt of the US in Washington DC has created more problems than solutions.

America was a great idea but as soon as federalism kicked in America was dead.

Time to split up. Each state to its own. To see what system is best we need the diversity that a federal/central govt does not allow.



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28 Jan 2010, 11:57 pm

ASPER wrote:
I really hope it is.
The tyrannical govt of the US in Washington DC has created more problems than solutions.

America was a great idea but as soon as federalism kicked in America was dead.

Time to split up. Each state to its own. To see what system is best we need the diversity that a federal/central govt does not allow.


Out of the frying pan into the fire.



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29 Jan 2010, 12:08 am

Sand wrote:
ASPER wrote:
I really hope it is.
The tyrannical govt of the US in Washington DC has created more problems than solutions.

America was a great idea but as soon as federalism kicked in America was dead.

Time to split up. Each state to its own. To see what system is best we need the diversity that a federal/central govt does not allow.


Out of the frying pan into the fire.


How is war funded then?