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24 May 2010, 7:10 pm

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I didn't vote for Nader/Green. But I DO have an Energy-Star refrigerator. Who wants to touch me?


Do you keep the refrigerator more full or empty? A full refrigerator is more efficient.
What temperature do you keep it at?



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24 May 2010, 9:09 pm

Francis wrote:
Epilefftic wrote:
I didn't vote for Nader/Green. But I DO have an Energy-Star refrigerator. Who wants to touch me?


Do you keep the refrigerator more full or empty? A full refrigerator is more efficient.
What temperature do you keep it at?


Always full and on factory settings, since I know nothing about fridges.


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16 Jun 2010, 12:08 am

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Since when the heck is stating one's skin colour not "green" not "ethical" etc?
or is it only when you're a Caucasian?

I wonder how long until stating that you're Male is also unethical.

if greens are so so over sensitive about PCness... I don't wanna be a green.


Sorry, probably I didn't make it clear what I was aiming at in that thread. I also find it a little ludicrous that calling someone green could be unethical, but the current trend seems to be that you can't call a dark skinned person "black" nor a light skinned person "white". Instead, stating their nationality ie Ugandan, German seems to be the thing to do. That's why I made my comment, Greens aren't that picky, only society is making us!!
And the comment originated from a joke made in the first place, so please take it light hearted!!



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16 Jun 2010, 12:13 am

Perelandra was a fairly good book, but I prefer the first book, Out Of The Silent Planet and I think the Sorns were the coolest of the three aliens on Malacandra.



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16 Jun 2010, 12:23 am

I don't get you sorry, iamnotaparakeet :D
This related to Green's at all?



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16 Jun 2010, 12:41 am

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I don't get you sorry, iamnotaparakeet :D
This related to Green's at all?


In Perelandra, the humanoid aliens were green. That's really all.



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16 Jun 2010, 11:43 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
AW wrote:
I don't get you sorry, iamnotaparakeet :D
This related to Green's at all?


In Perelandra, the humanoid aliens were green. That's really all.


Ah cool he he sorry makes sense now!! !



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17 Jun 2010, 5:15 am

Well the green party is great if you don't want your vote to matter. Sure they can scream and rant all they want but there is a two party system. You have a better chance of defeating the fat cats by getting more of those green party canidates running in The Democratic party. We need people who voice blunt opinions like they do, just in a party that matters.



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17 Jun 2010, 5:36 pm

countzarroff wrote:
Well the green party is great if you don't want your vote to matter. Sure they can scream and rant all they want but there is a two party system. You have a better chance of defeating the fat cats by getting more of those green party canidates running in The Democratic party. We need people who voice blunt opinions like they do, just in a party that matters.


You seem to be of the mistaken impression that there is any real difference between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.

The US electoral system is like a chicken out in the farmyard on a snowy day...
He has one leg painted red, and one leg painted blue.
When the left leg gets cold, he tucks it up under his wing, and stands on the other for a while.
When it gets cold, and the other warms up, he will switch legs and stand on the other.
But no matter which leg it stands on... it's the same damn chicken.

Voting green may not elect anyone... but it makes a statement, a protest, that you will not be fooled by the two party system and you want more... it is a slow process, but as the results for nonconformist parties increase at the polls, they will have to be noticed, and heeded. Eventually they will begin to succeed and replace the old.
However by then they will be just as stale and outdated as the ones they replace.



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17 Jul 2010, 2:28 am

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I just want to ask, are there any Aspies who support the Green party of your respective country? I just want to ask what had attracted you to really support the Greens?


The Greens are Luddites.

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This.

These people would rather preach about solar panels instead of real viable solutions, even though if you covered the planet in them it wouldn't solve our energy demand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER#Criticism



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17 Jul 2010, 8:11 am

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ruveyn wrote:
ruennsheng wrote:
I just want to ask, are there any Aspies who support the Green party of your respective country? I just want to ask what had attracted you to really support the Greens?


The Greens are Luddites.

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This.

These people would rather preach about solar panels instead of real viable solutions, even though if you covered the planet in them it wouldn't solve our energy demand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER#Criticism


Correct. That is why we need heat energy generated by nuclear fission plants. We need to pave North America with fast breeder reactors to produce all the electrical energy we will ever need. It would also be useful to tap into geothermal heat. There is enough heat in the Earth's core to last a billion years at present consumption rates.

Photovoltaic units can be useful in sunny climes that are not accessible to the power grids. Photovoltaic units are a potentially useful niche source for electrical power.

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17 Jul 2010, 8:19 am

Yep I'm a greenie. I'm very conscientious about what goes in the trash can and what goes in the recycle bin. I never buy out food and whenever I cook food, I scatter what's left of it in the soil.


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17 Jul 2010, 11:36 am

ruveyn wrote:
Asmodeus wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
ruennsheng wrote:
I just want to ask, are there any Aspies who support the Green party of your respective country? I just want to ask what had attracted you to really support the Greens?


The Greens are Luddites.

ruveyn

This.

These people would rather preach about solar panels instead of real viable solutions, even though if you covered the planet in them it wouldn't solve our energy demand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER#Criticism


Correct. That is why we need heat energy generated by nuclear fission plants. We need to pave North America with fast breeder reactors to produce all the electrical energy we will ever need. It would also be useful to tap into geothermal heat. There is enough heat in the Earth's core to last a billion years at present consumption rates.

Photovoltaic units can be useful in sunny climes that are not accessible to the power grids. Photovoltaic units are a potentially useful niche source for electrical power.

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They're useful on a small scale. Sign lights, the odd house, etc, but covering larger areas (like the roofs of a city) is inpractical. They need to be replaced at least once every 20 years, and don't generate enough power for industry. Though the "renewable" sources have uses, money shouldn't be diverted from funding fission/fusion research, just because people think that any reactor using something more volatile than coal will end in another Chernobyl.

I still want my Ford Nucleon. :)



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17 Jul 2010, 11:45 am

Photovoltaic cells are most useful in space, where it doesn't matter as much about the surface area consumed due to inefficiencies.



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17 Jul 2010, 1:01 pm

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Though the "renewable" sources have uses, money shouldn't be diverted from funding fission/fusion research, just because people think that any reactor using something more volatile than coal will end in another Chernobyl.

I still want my Ford Nucleon. :)


Don't hold your breath waiting for controlled fusion. If you do, most likely you will turn blue and die. Controlled fusion has been 30 years in the future for the last 60 years and a hundred years from now it will still be 30 years in the future.

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20 Jul 2010, 11:04 am

ruveyn wrote:
Asmodeus wrote:
Though the "renewable" sources have uses, money shouldn't be diverted from funding fission/fusion research, just because people think that any reactor using something more volatile than coal will end in another Chernobyl.

I still want my Ford Nucleon. :)


Don't hold your breath waiting for controlled fusion. If you do, most likely you will turn blue and die. Controlled fusion has been 30 years in the future for the last 60 years and a hundred years from now it will still be 30 years in the future.

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Hopefully now the pressure is on to develop power alternatives, and if funding isn't diverted it won't be long.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10385853
and paving the streets with reactors?:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1504564.stm