Deaths as Israeli forces storm Gaza aid ship

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The American ship was in a war zone, where it had no business being. Also there is the issue of ships flying under false flags. At no time did the U.S. government inform the Israelis of the presence of a U.S. war ship in a battle zone. In wars friendly or inadvertent fire is common. It was clearly no Israeli government policy to attack U.S. ships and no incident like this has occurred since. 43 years ago. No doubt 100 years from now Israel and Jew haters will be waving that bloody banner, if there still is an Israel 100 years from now. Jews are the only people in the world questioned about exercising the right of defense. Why is that?

ruveyn

What videos ?
I saw videos where large group of ppl attacking singled out soldiers,quite "successfully" i might add,if i were in such a position i would shoot to kill and so would u,
Did u, gifted as u are with the ability to grasp multitudes of perspectives ever asked yourself why all the deaths occurred at one ship ?
There were many ships on that flutila ,how come no one gets hurt on any of them ?
Could u grasp that besides this things being a tragic lost of life it is a PR disaster for Israel,
Why on earth Israel would want that ?
Israel made many efforts to avoid this confrontation not because it is a nice country(it is not) but because it's a loose-loose situation which is exactly why the organizers choose this methods of action,
there are a lot of much more effective way to supply the Gazans but as usual nobody cares about that,
it's all just as cynical politics as it can be and u swallow it whole with out asking the most basic question while calling me brainwashed.
grow up !

Why would Israel do a number of the PR disaster military tactics they've used before? I'd like to know!

The way they carry out their "self-defense" is questionable. Sure, 8 years of rocket attacks that killed around 20 people. Did they have to kill 1400 in response? (More than half of the 1400 were civilians).

Also, the whole economic blockade has nothing to do with stopping weapons smuggling. The Egypt-Israel border still has smuggling tunnels and Israel is not only blocking weapons into Gaza but also other supplies as well.

And a final statement:

A picture worth a thousand words. Seriously though, how do you justify doing this from one or 2 rocket launchers on the building. White posphorus is prohibited from being used in densely populated areas anyway. The Israelis could've chosen a much better weapon where things don't fly everywhere.
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Thanks. I hadn't realized that. I guess Lyndon Johnson's coverup was more reprehensible than I had realized.

In this case, though, the Turkish government seems to be showing little interest in protecting Israel.

I don't know what happened when they boarded that one ship, clearly something happened one way or the other to make the IDF commandos do what they did. They boarded the other 5 ships without a problem for weapons checks so I get the feeling these activists on this one ship probably did violently retaliate.

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Oh my God! The Israelis have prevented contraband from going to Hamas! I am shocked, shocked!

The people who are appalled by what the Israelis have done are the same people who are appalled when the Israelis fire back at the Hamas rocketeers. How dare the Israelis defend themselves, those fascist bastards!

ruveyn

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Ruyven, it is obvious that anything the Israelis do is above criticism to your viewpoint. I find you totally disgusting. It is, of course, a very personal viewpoint and not to be a criticism of your much proclaimed high IQ which evidently has led you into strange ways.

I saw some of the protests on TV, and these people with signs that say "Free Palestine" and "Stop U.S. Aid to Israel" are the same people who will freak out if someone has a signs that say "The Holocaust Was a Myth" and "Adolf Hitler Was the Greatest Man Who Ever Lived".

I don't see any difference in any of those phrases.

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You should read some of Norman Finkelstein's works. They're a much more compelling argument than just 3 words repeated.

It works the same for the other side
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I think u shouldn't analyzes modern democratic state defense affairs through your primitive misconception of an "eye for an eye" ,
As most people at this thread u suffer for much too simplistic mind to really understand what's going on and u enforce symmetry to values and terms that incomparable/
So far the Hamas rockets are crap(they smuggling better one every day) but just try to live in a city where u r exposed to an mediate danger fearing death all the time for 8 years,
Israel didn't seek to revenge it citizen death(what a sickening conception for a so call peaceful man) but to stop to constant shelling of it civilians(i'm sure no one in the left protested that)
To do that it had to go into a very crowded urban area where weapons and combatants hide themselves behind the civilian populace and facilities while doing it best to preserve it soldiers lives
There were some incidents it went to far,those cases were investigated and ppl stood trials (BTW,the US and NATO forces fare much worse than IDF under such conditions)
could u even imagine Hamas punishes it own ppl for hurting civilians unjustifiably ?
Of course not,they target civilians openly and admittedly,
Yet,the hypocrites on this thread and all around the world never doubt Israel is to be blame for all the wrongs in the world,
The sad result is that most people in Israel don't give a sh$$$t about what u think
Most ppl in Israel thinks that Americans and Europeans are amazingly ignorant, shallow folks who care's about nothing but themselves and uses the tragic and painfully situation in the ME as a means to promote their distorted image of themselves as saints of some kind in order to justify their petty,ugly,miserable little lives/
An honest,educated reaction to Israel wrong doings is very much needed (and u can find plenty of it at the Israeli media) that's why it's such a shame that all we get is u lot/

Of course, the most dastardly crime in Israel seems to be the inability to spell "you" but with proper education that might, eventually be overcome. Attacking a mercy mission on the high seas and killing defenseless people coming to the aid of a people imprisoned in a huge concentration camp will, in the short memory of the world, be soon forgotten.