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What's to Blame for the BP Oil Spill?
An excess of regulatory red tape that interfered with the free market 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Corporate taxes that would have otherwise been spent on safety 17%  17%  [ 3 ]
Eco-terrorists who sabotaged the oil well 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Barack Hussein Obama's socialist ideology 22%  22%  [ 4 ]
Corrupt Big Gubmint 17%  17%  [ 3 ]
Atheists who do not believe in Christ, so we were all punished 22%  22%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 18

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09 Jun 2010, 1:44 pm

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That's not a very good poll.

BP took shortcuts and drilled deeper than they were supposed to.

Also, government regulations helped cause this too. If environmental laws didn't require oil companies to drill in 5000 feet of water it would have been easier to fix.


Couldn't have said it better myself.


the Ixtoc rig was in only 160 feet of water in the gulf of mexico when it blew out in 1979. it took 10 months to seal. it is estimated that 140 million gallons of crude spilled from that disaster. the superadvancedmegatronicawesomesauce technology we have used to attempt to fix the Deep Water Horizon Fail is the exact same half-assed crap we tried in 1979.

none of it worked.

the eventual solution was a relief well.


damn those environmentalists! it's obviously their fault oil extraction companies don't put more money and effort into environmental protection precautions.... if only the environmentalists had just stfu and not overregulated an industry that is obviously second only to the financial services industry in its desire and ability to self-regulate.

also, blame those damnable pacifists for unnecessary wars.



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09 Jun 2010, 3:17 pm

"The good news is that the Gulf has more natural protections than the frigid Alaskan waters, Tunnell said.

The sun and warm water will help evaporate and break up the Deepwater Horizon spill, he said. A long history of naturally occurring oil seeps in the western Gulf of Mexico will act like a giant vaccine, promoting the growth of marine organisms that break down the oil, Tunnell said.

'Studies have shown that the natural seeps are equivalent to the release of about two supertankers a year,' he said. 'What that does is establish a huge population of bio-organisms.'"

http://www.newsherald.com/articles/texa ... spill.html


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09 Jun 2010, 7:09 pm

Irony?



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09 Jun 2010, 9:39 pm

I blame polar bears and French toast. I also think igloos and square things had a hand in this, but I mostly blame polar bears... mostly.


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10 Jun 2010, 2:34 am

Thomas Aquinas wrote that greed was "a sin against God, just as all mortal sins, in as much as man condemns things eternal for the sake of temporal things." BP decided to cut corners in order to fatten their bottom line, literally not giving a damn about the consequences down the line. Greed may be "good" [in a temporal sense] but it sure ain't God. IOW, when they thought they were doing well [with their well], they stopped thinking. I see the deadly sins all over the place.



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10 Jun 2010, 4:23 am

"Judge not..."


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10 Jun 2010, 5:08 am

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"Judge not..."


if somebody took a big dump in my yard, i sure as hell am going to judge!



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10 Jun 2010, 6:50 am

american hubris always wanting cheap oil, and obama can stop making threats as well the big donut



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10 Jun 2010, 6:53 am

I think we are all to blame for depending so much on oil.



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10 Jun 2010, 7:19 am

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BP, Halburton and associated corporations who had charge of drilling the well and maintaining the apparatus. They all did a sh***y job. And I hope the courts will make them pay the people who suffered from their slipshod practices.


That's about it.

Corruption at every level. I don't know how saving $500,000 at the expense of billions IF something goes wrong is justified, but frankly, there is blame sufficient to go around.

BP (et. als.) did shoddy work, cut corners, bribed officials so they could build a platform that was destined to fail.

BP's greed had them going forward when experts warned them a disaster was immanent due to problems in the design they were using.

Government allows non-US platforms operating in US waters. Inspection was only mandated every 5 years, and by independent contractors. US flagged platforms would be inspected annually by the Coast Guard (IIRC). Better chance to catch problems before a disaster happens.

Enviro-weenies (tree huggers) saying "NO" to drilling closer to shore or on land for the good of Mother Nature. You do realize a well breach on land is easier to contain and cap than one at sea, right? You do realize you have a better chance at fixing a well breach at 200 feet than at 5,000 feet, right? The Horizon was drilling at the depth they were at because it was where they got permission to drill...thanks to the efforts of environmentalists to keep them away from oil easier to get to.

General short-sightedness. You can't drill wells at 5,000 feet with technology only designed for 500 feet. The pressures that deep (and other environmental factors) make doing anything much more hazardous and near impossible to fix quickly if something goes wrong.



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10 Jun 2010, 9:17 am

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I think we are all to blame for depending so much on oil.


"We" don't have all that much choice. Go visit the eco-phreaks who have been opposing nuclear fission generation for decades. If we had paved over North America with fission generators we would only need oil for lubrication and as a chemical feedstock for useful polymers. We would not have to burn it.

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10 Jun 2010, 2:01 pm

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I think we are all to blame for depending so much on oil.


"We" don't have all that much choice. Go visit the eco-phreaks who have been opposing nuclear fission generation for decades. If we had paved over North America with fission generators we would only need oil for lubrication and as a chemical feedstock for useful polymers. We would not have to burn it.


+1

And regarding "nuclear waste".... if we used nuclear power that dramatically, there'd be a massive demand for re-purposing spent nuclear fuel into stuff that we could use to fuel different types of power reactors. The problem with disposing of nuclear waste is that we don't know what to do with it other than bury it.



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10 Jun 2010, 3:42 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Robdemanc wrote:
I think we are all to blame for depending so much on oil.


"We" don't have all that much choice. Go visit the eco-phreaks who have been opposing nuclear fission generation for decades. If we had paved over North America with fission generators we would only need oil for lubrication and as a chemical feedstock for useful polymers. We would not have to burn it.

ruveyn


Here in South Africa, we looking at nuclear energy as an energy solution. The fact is there really is no alternative, not even environmentally friendly ones. Even if there was an acceptable way to get rid of nuclear waste, those eco-phreaks, as you call them, will just oppose everything and anything with the word "nuclear" in it. Fortunately, they don't call the shots. From an environmental perspective, oil burning is worse, in a sense, than nuclear energy. Nuclear energy just requires us to be bit responsible for what is done with the waste.



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10 Jun 2010, 3:50 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Robdemanc wrote:
I think we are all to blame for depending so much on oil.


"We" don't have all that much choice. Go visit the eco-phreaks who have been opposing nuclear fission generation for decades. If we had paved over North America with fission generators we would only need oil for lubrication and as a chemical feedstock for useful polymers. We would not have to burn it.


+1

And regarding "nuclear waste".... if we used nuclear power that dramatically, there'd be a massive demand for re-purposing spent nuclear fuel into stuff that we could use to fuel different types of power reactors. The problem with disposing of nuclear waste is that we don't know what to do with it other than bury it.



Breeder reactors eliminate most of the waste, since "waste" is recycled as fuel stock. What little waste there is can be dumped in the Marianas Trench which is six miles deep under the Pacific.

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11 Jun 2010, 11:48 pm

Topcat16 wrote:
american hubris always wanting cheap oil, and obama can stop making threats as well the big donut


Did you know BP means British Petroleum?


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12 Jun 2010, 4:42 am

Greed.

It is a permanent problem factor when you deal with security and safety. And corporate f-heads in suits who dont get these two concepts.


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