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AngelRho
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07 Aug 2010, 9:08 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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All I'm saying is that God doesn't play games with the universe.

Are you saying quantum mechanics aren't real? :P



lol

Well, quantum mechanics is beyond the scope of my knowledge. All I know is something about a cat in a box that may or may not be dead and the existence of multiple metaverses, or something like that.


Schroedinger's Cat is metaphor or a parable on quantum states. When an object has not been observed by interaction with another physical system it could be on any one of several states. By observing the object, the quantum wave function is `collapsed so that the object is seen in exactly one of it possible quantum states.

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THAT'S it. Schoedinger's Cat. And as I recall, it was more a thought experiment than an actual, physical test. There's no real way you can apply these principles, at least not yet. I have heard of quantum computers, which sounds interesting. I'm just not in the habit of pretending to know things I'm unfamiliar with, and those kinds of things are best presented by more knowledgable people than myself.



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07 Aug 2010, 9:36 pm

AngelRho wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
greenblue wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
All I'm saying is that God doesn't play games with the universe.

Are you saying quantum mechanics aren't real? :P



lol

Well, quantum mechanics is beyond the scope of my knowledge. All I know is something about a cat in a box that may or may not be dead and the existence of multiple metaverses, or something like that.


Schroedinger's Cat is metaphor or a parable on quantum states. When an object has not been observed by interaction with another physical system it could be on any one of several states. By observing the object, the quantum wave function is `collapsed so that the object is seen in exactly one of it possible quantum states.

ruveyn


THAT'S it. Schoedinger's Cat. And as I recall, it was more a thought experiment than an actual, physical test. There's no real way you can apply these principles, at least not yet. I have heard of quantum computers, which sounds interesting. I'm just not in the habit of pretending to know things I'm unfamiliar with, and those kinds of things are best presented by more knowledgable people than myself.


Your plain old computer works on quantum effects. Transistors cannot be explained by means of classical physics. The exclusion bands of a transistor are the result of quantum effects.

In fact classic physics cannot account for stable atoms.

ordinary run of the mill physics at the atomic level is quantum physics.

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07 Aug 2010, 11:02 pm

ruveyn wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
greenblue wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
All I'm saying is that God doesn't play games with the universe.

Are you saying quantum mechanics aren't real? :P



lol

Well, quantum mechanics is beyond the scope of my knowledge. All I know is something about a cat in a box that may or may not be dead and the existence of multiple metaverses, or something like that.


Schroedinger's Cat is metaphor or a parable on quantum states. When an object has not been observed by interaction with another physical system it could be on any one of several states. By observing the object, the quantum wave function is `collapsed so that the object is seen in exactly one of it possible quantum states.

ruveyn


THAT'S it. Schoedinger's Cat. And as I recall, it was more a thought experiment than an actual, physical test. There's no real way you can apply these principles, at least not yet. I have heard of quantum computers, which sounds interesting. I'm just not in the habit of pretending to know things I'm unfamiliar with, and those kinds of things are best presented by more knowledgable people than myself.


Your plain old computer works on quantum effects. Transistors cannot be explained by means of classical physics. The exclusion bands of a transistor are the result of quantum effects.

In fact classic physics cannot account for stable atoms.

ordinary run of the mill physics at the atomic level is quantum physics.

ruveyn


Hmmm... I guess ya learn something new every day.

Something I understand loosely are the concepts of acoustics and resonance. Subtractive synthesis systems imitate acoustic environments by filtering frequency bands and emphasizing harmonic frequencies. However, I personally prefer the method of additive synthesis by analyzing a waveform and recreating its spectra, emphasizing upper harmonics by applying frequency-stable phase modulation (commonly referred to in this case as frequency modulation, although that is a misnomer) and creating sidebands (which can also be subjected to subtractive resonant filtering). I recently discovered some very interesting behavior from the synthesizer I've just recently started using: It is an 8-bit digital synth, and instead of lowering the amplitude of the lowest harmonic frequency when it is told to, it normalizes it. The result, instead of a lower amplitude sine wave, is a sine wave with gradually increasing quantization error until it deteriorates into different variations of a pulse wave. Normally, this is odd behavior which would be considered poor quality performance in any other digital system, but it is a "fault" that has some incredibly useful applications. I'm proud to say I own an incredibly rare machine that can pull this effect off.

I have other synthesizers that are more "accurate" (I think either 12-bit or 16-bit, I can't remember) and make use of feedback loops, resulting in waveforms that resemble analog waveforms more so than typical digital systems (although the pulse waves in my more expensive, 8-bit system just can't be beat).

Otherwise, the only other "quantization" I know about has to do with sequencing electro-acoustic events. If the events are recorded inaccurately, a sequencer may round them off (or quantize) them to the nearest given time point based on a pre-determined rate.

The end result is the sequencer triggers the synthesizer to generate spectra based on one or more fundamental frequencies, the spectra are converted to voltages, and the voltages are converted to pressure waves by which they may be observed in real-time.

And there you have the extent of my most advanced electro-physical knowledge.

My understanding of quantum mechanics is that particles exhibit the same kinds of properties as pressure waves. Without that principle, neither my quasi-analog synthesizers nor my digital synthesizers would even work. Is that about the gist of it?