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07 Aug 2010, 4:56 pm

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All metaphors. Many NTs really take the bible literally.


Those on the spectrum aren't automatically without faith. I don't know where I'd be without mine. It boils down to who believes and who doesn't. Sometimes, things are mysterious and all we can do is accept it for what it is. In this case, Jesus (in His Divine Nature) was able to walk on water.



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07 Aug 2010, 5:51 pm

Laz wrote:
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I thought Paul McCartney gave us Wings?


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07 Aug 2010, 6:55 pm

Capper7 wrote:
sartresue wrote:
All metaphors. Many NTs really take the bible literally.


Those on the spectrum aren't automatically without faith. I don't know where I'd be without mine. It boils down to who believes and who doesn't. Sometimes, things are mysterious and all we can do is accept it for what it is. In this case, Jesus (in His Divine Nature) was able to walk on water.


The best answer so far.


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07 Aug 2010, 7:49 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
Laz wrote:
Red bull gives you wings


I thought Paul McCartney gave us Wings?


And Jesus built my hotrod.


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08 Aug 2010, 11:23 am

The guy that saw him were a LSD user and Jesus a mythomania guy



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08 Aug 2010, 11:34 am

I'm sure it wasn't that hard for him, all he had to do was step on the heads of all those women accused of being witches who were thrown in to see if they could float.



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08 Aug 2010, 11:36 am

Same way the Loch Ness monster photo was taken.



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08 Aug 2010, 11:54 am

He memorized where he was going to walk and put rocks in those spots, praying to his father no one would ask him to run on water?



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09 Aug 2010, 12:50 am

Prestidigitation is slight of hand.

What do you call slight of foot?



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12 Aug 2010, 1:38 pm

Here is another look at the question of Jesus walking on the water:

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http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt134806.html

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12 Aug 2010, 4:14 pm

Exclavius wrote:
Prestidigitation is slight of hand.

What do you call slight of foot?


Prestidigitation.

The word doesn't refer to the hand, but rather to the digits (fingers) of which the feet are amply provided.

Hmmm, maybe Jesus had webbed toes.
Does that mean Mary was God's cousin?
But doesn't that make St. Anne God's aunt?
Hmm, family reunions must get very complicated.


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12 Aug 2010, 7:07 pm

Little propulsion engines embedded in the souls of his feet.


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13 Aug 2010, 8:11 am

I have heard the idea, and IMO is a very convincing idea, that Jesus is actually the sun. The earliest spiritual/religious ideas or beliefs were where people worshiped the sun. As religion developed and became more sophisticated the older ideas were simply updated (because people were used to them) and the sun was replaced by an entity or entities known as gods.

The sun can walk on water. If you imagine yourself as a person living thousands of years ago who had no knowledge of what light was and had no idea what the sun actually was, then its easy to see how people may say the sun walks on water.
The sunset over a lake or sea. Or the sun reflecting off water.

The most convincing arguement for the idea that the sun is jesus is the whole life story of jesus. Born on 25th Dec, after being dead for three days he was born again. Most humans have always lived in the northern hemisphere. In the northern hemisphere the 25th Dec is the first day after the winter solstice, where the sun appears to have stopped for about 3 days. Apparently the 25th Dec is the first day when it is observable from earth that the sun has started its new cycle - i.e. it raises a little further north than it did from 22nd-24th Dec when it raises the least. So the ancients had a story that the sun dies for three days, but is reborn on 25th Dec.

Other reasons I think this is valid:
Jesus cometh on clouds - If you have ever looked at sunbeams casting down from some clouds it is a truly amazing sight and must have dazzled the ancients.

Turns water into wine - presumably the ancients twigged that the sun was necessary to make things grow as long as watering takes place the sun will cause plants to grow, produce their fruits, which the ancients discovered they could turn into wine.

The star of bethlehem and the three kings - It is more than possible that the star of bethlehem is the star sirius (the brightest star in the sky) and the three kings are the three stars of orions belt. During the winter solstice the three stars of orions belt align with the star sirius and point to the position on the horizon where the sun rises during those days. So it could be said that the ancients followed the three kings to find the star that heralded the birth of the sun (which was their god).

There is more about this on a video on youtube called the Truth about Religion.



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15 Aug 2010, 1:45 pm

pgd wrote:
Can someone explain how Jesus was able to walk on water?

Your views as to how Jesus did it?


The movie 'Being There' has one of the most powerful and beautiful endings of any movie I have ever seen.

Chauncey, a gardener who is Autistic, walks out onto the surface of a lake.

Just to make sure that the audience realized that it IS water and not just frozen over (Washington DC in the winter) he pushes his umbrella about a foot or so into the water that he is standing on.

He was able to walk on water for the simple reason that he didn't know that he COULDN'T walk on water :arrow:

As for Jesus, like bumble bees flying, he knew that he COULD walk on water

I have heard stories of Tibetan monks who have done similarly 'impossible' things.


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16 Aug 2010, 12:17 pm

Like other miracles of the Bible, 'walking on water' is a profound metaphor...perhaps it symbolises how faith can inspire one to overcome insurmountable obstacles. To be a believer in a Divinity does not imply subscribing to a literal interpretation. The scriptures have been described as 'God's love letter to humanity,' and any love poem will include metaphor, allegory, and other literary devices.



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16 Aug 2010, 12:33 pm

As an element, water is said to represent emotions, so perhaps walking on water symbolises rising up so as not to stuggle with them, or risk drowning in them, but to make use of them to progress in the direction of our choosing, and not the direction in which turbulent water may be flowing.


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