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24 Sep 2010, 4:31 pm

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25 Sep 2010, 8:01 am

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The problem is that there *isn't* a healthy population. The Japanese aren't just going after the little minke and sei whales; they want to be able to kill everything that swims. The larger whales still have not recovered to pre-industrial whaling population levels, and now they are threatened b/c humans are competing with them for food (krill and smaller fishes) and poisoning the oceans in ways that kill off their food (herring in Alaska after the Valdeze spill, for example, still have not recovered).


That isn't just a problem with whales. David Suzuki warned the Canadians for decades that they were overfishing Salmon.

But there were votes involved and compensation for fishermen if you reduced their catch. So now they are in big trouble.



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27 Sep 2010, 1:25 am

It's not just whales and salmon. Continuing to fish for Atlantic bluefin tuna is on the verge of driving the species extinct, but every single adult tuna is worth thousands of dollars. Swordfish, the same.

They're going to have to stop killing them *sometime,* why not stop while there are still enough left to build back the population?



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27 Sep 2010, 1:48 am

Pretty much anything the Japanese do to get seafood is destructive, but that being said, I don't think that Greenpeace or the Sea Shepherds are going to put a stop to it. That will require economic sanctions.


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27 Sep 2010, 4:06 am

I'm all for sustainable aquaculture, and restrictions on whaling based on sustainability (note: restrictions are not the same as prohibitions).

The subject that truly gets up my nose is the opposition to the seal hunt.


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29 Sep 2010, 10:51 pm

skafather84 wrote:
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The Japanese need to move on.


I think the Japanese are doing fine and Americans need to stop taking up stupid causes just because they think the animal is cute or don't have the stomach for what needs to be done.


I NEVER said that I support Americans who harass whalers, I said the Japanese NEED to move on. If you don't like that, too effing bad for you, that's not my problem.

You sound like you're one of those American haters who will attack an American they feel they can dominate and blame them for what you think other Americans are doing wrong, like I can do anything about it.

Do you realize how ridicules that is? Maybe next time you should stop and read what was actually written and stop and think about what you are writing before you write something ret*d like that again and embarass yourself.


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29 Sep 2010, 11:00 pm

to TAUPEY.......please note that skafather84 thinks michael vick is 'just swell'.



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29 Sep 2010, 11:24 pm

danandlouie wrote:
to TAUPEY.......please note that skafather84 thinks michael vick is 'just swell'.


Yeah, Ska and I play poker with him on Wednesday nights, then we go kick puppies for fun... :lol:


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29 Sep 2010, 11:36 pm

Dox47 wrote:
danandlouie wrote:
to TAUPEY.......please note that skafather84 thinks michael vick is 'just swell'.


Yeah, Ska and I play poker with him on Wednesday nights, then we go kick puppies for fun... :lol:


And rule fantasy football with him.


/Seriously, you can't hold that against a guy for life. He should be able to get on with his life. It's just a shame that the PETA freaks can't get on with their lives and have to stick their noses in everything.


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29 Sep 2010, 11:40 pm

Taupey wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Taupey wrote:
The Japanese need to move on.


I think the Japanese are doing fine and Americans need to stop taking up stupid causes just because they think the animal is cute or don't have the stomach for what needs to be done.


I NEVER said that I support Americans who harass whalers, I said the Japanese NEED to move on. If you don't like that, too effing bad for you, that's not my problem.

You sound like you're one of those American haters who will attack an American they feel they can dominate and blame them for what you think other Americans are doing wrong, like I can do anything about it.

Do you realize how ridicules that is? Maybe next time you should stop and read what was actually written and stop and think about what you are writing before you write something ret*d like that again and embarass yourself.


Screw 'save the whales', I say 'save the Americans' because we're committing suicide between bad economic policy and the various nation building abroad and the newly brewing trade war with China. Obsession over animal welfare is a luxury cause.


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30 Sep 2010, 5:28 am

skafather84 wrote:

Screw 'save the whales', I say 'save the Americans' because we're committing suicide between bad economic policy and the various nation building abroad and the newly brewing trade war with China. Obsession over animal welfare is a luxury cause.


Arrgghhh! Smarrrt as paint ye arrrre.! While the Titanic is going down, the do-gooders want to save the deck chairs.;l


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30 Sep 2010, 6:18 am

I suggest we promote cannibalism.

The parts of the world that are overpopulated can eat each other until the population is stable.

Otherwise you can't stop it. People need to eat and they will eat anything they can.

In Africa it will go on until the last people cut down the last tree to barbecue the last tiger.



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30 Sep 2010, 12:08 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

Although I have nothing against eating beef or chicken I am personally against whaling.


lolwut?



skafather84 wrote:
Screw 'save the whales', I say 'save the Americans' because we're committing suicide between bad economic policy and the various nation building abroad and the newly brewing trade war with China. Obsession over animal welfare is a luxury cause.



"Who cares about animals when there's REAL suffering happenin'." -

Skafather


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30 Sep 2010, 12:14 pm

Bethie wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Screw 'save the whales', I say 'save the Americans' because we're committing suicide between bad economic policy and the various nation building abroad and the newly brewing trade war with China. Obsession over animal welfare is a luxury cause.



"Who cares about animals when there's REAL suffering happenin'." -

Skafather


:D



If killing a dog with my bare hands would save a human life, I'd do it without hesitation.


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30 Sep 2010, 12:14 pm

Wombat wrote:
I suggest we promote cannibalism.

The parts of the world that are overpopulated can eat each other until the population is stable.

We could eat aborted fetuses, it's more ethical.

Bethie wrote:
Who cares about animals when there's REAL suffering happenin'.

I don't.

skafather84 wrote:
Obsession over animal welfare is a luxury cause.

You are correct.


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30 Sep 2010, 3:50 pm

Wombat wrote:
I suggest we promote cannibalism.

The parts of the world that are overpopulated can eat each other until the population is stable.

Otherwise you can't stop it. People need to eat and they will eat anything they can.

In Africa it will go on until the last people cut down the last tree to barbecue the last tiger.


LOL Okay! :lmao:


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