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08 Oct 2010, 6:21 am

marshall wrote:
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I don't hate people...

...I just hate being within a two mile radius of people.



QFT although it isn't much that I hate people as it is I wish people knew I didn't hate them. My problem evolves around not being able to smile or seem "friendly".


It is a good bit of a chore to force smiles and laughs and (at least in my case) try to feign interest in things, isn't it?

It's not that I hate people so much as I hate how basic and plain most people are.


Yup. Sometimes just the thought of having to "fake it" sucks all the air out of me and makes me want to avoid people. It helps to have someone who can make me genuinely laugh. Otherwise I find myself stuck in a daze, with my mind stuck on something else. It's hard not to have a negative feeling towards people when I see them all having this energy and it just falls flat on me.


couldn't have said it better myself, about gettin the air sucked outta ya - i cannot wait to chill with a group of asperger's people. getting sooo up to here with NTs...



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08 Oct 2010, 6:32 am

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It's not that I hate people so much as I hate how basic and plain most people are.


Yes they are. But at the same time they can be good solid "salt of the earth" people who are kind and loyal.


Until they know that you believe something that is very far outside of the norm of society but is reasonable when educated on the matter. Like with prostitution or drug prohibition or abortion.

It's why I know to keep most of my views toned down or just silent in general. I understand that the vast majority of people are "good" in the sense of well-meaning but I also know that most people act on a much more base level.


i can relate to it, and it sucks (cuz salt of the earth people are where it's at), but i dont make a point of keeping my views toned down. that would suck even worse.



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08 Oct 2010, 6:35 am

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i am afraid the word misanthropy describes me. people seem to have more capacity to sympathize then other animals do, but they do so conditionally.

but i am not a true misanthrope since those with no faith in other people are resigned to character deficiencies in people. therefore the real misanthopes are "theorists" such as psychoanalysts, evolutionary psychologists, essentialists, and other pseudointellectuals.

the diverse group of thinkers that embrace "human nature" all seem to argue the following things.

1. people are naturally greedy, therefore anyone who does not trample someone else does not surrender to their basest impulses, and is therefore a sissy. people have no rights, even to life, because the "strong" must replace the weak.

2. people are social beings just like wolves :arrow: therefore repression, discrimination, and mob mentality are "natural" :arrow: therefore even more of these interactions should occur than already exist.

3. anyone who does not follow their "nature" is abnormal :arrow: they must be forced, sometimes through questionable medical intervention, to behave "naturally".

4. people have higher brain functions, but these are "maladaptive" because they hinder "natural" processes and encourage rebellion against "natural" social establishments.

5. all people are created the same...except certain groups are innately different and therefore inferior. differences between groups are cut and dry because "nature" engineers everything down to an exact science.


certain groups are innately different and therefore inferior? *exactly* what does that mean?



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08 Oct 2010, 1:46 pm

do you really think that i actually meant that :?: i was sort of being sarcastic.

i was trying to say that the real misanthropes are those who purposely make false arguements about people, such as those who try to justify sociopathic interactions, thinking that anyone who disagrees is an idealist.

a misanthrope thinks that we might as well renounce the 50,000 years of progress people have made in favor of returning to our *natural* selves.

therefore, even if i am a misanthrope, it is not because of low standards for people.



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08 Oct 2010, 2:47 pm

I agree with Tensu and partially with Petite Souris

I'm on the edge of misanthropy, not because of what I have endured with my Aspie experience (and it was hard experience), I had a very rich social life that made NT jealous, but because I was going from disappointment to disappointment.

There were a hundred reasons for this: greedy, uninteresting, uninterested, insensitive, desperately predictable, sadly unpredictable, whatever... people. I cut almost every bridge since. And the strange thing is I am happy.

The only thing that prevent me to be a misanthrope now, is that I met few people that really worth more than all the rest. Kind, intelligent, funny or not. They are far from perfect as I am but they are making their life better by inspiring other without waiting something in return. Just because of them, humanity is worth something to me.


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08 Oct 2010, 4:07 pm

petitesouris wrote:
do you really think that i actually meant that :?: i was sort of being sarcastic.

i was trying to say that the real misanthropes are those who purposely make false arguements about people, such as those who try to justify sociopathic interactions, thinking that anyone who disagrees is an idealist.

a misanthrope thinks that we might as well renounce the 50,000 years of progress people have made in favor of returning to our *natural* selves.

therefore, even if i am a misanthrope, it is not because of low standards for people.


i had no idea what you meant, i don't even know you