Why do Americans Hate America?

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Your error is confuse being influential with being imperialistic. The U.S. is very influential. Even with all its faults and inefficiencies the people of the U.S. produce goods and services which are sought after and purchased the world over. I think we are definitely at fault when the U.S. gives aid and comfort to evil tyrannies for a temporary advantage in whatever "cold war" we happen to be fighting. That is wrong, but it is not imperialism. The leadership of the nation (U.S.) should have heeded George Washington's advice and avoided entangling alliances. The U.S. should trade with all nations and interfere in no other nation. We should become known as the place where you can get goods and services at reasonable prices and good quality. The business of American (U.S.) should be business, not "nation building" or rescuing people who are beyond being helped. No one appointed the U.S. to be World Cop and we should avoid that role like the plague that it is. No one appointed us to be the feeder of the hungry either. The business of America is America. We are not here to feed the world.

Albert Camus said it well: we should not be either a victim or an executioner.

ruvyen

Have you ever heard the coined term"Anglo- American empire" before ? If so, what do you associate it with. Once I've researched it, I understood that this American "economic, social, etc" empire is characterized by Anglo- Americanism because that's where the roots stem from. You associate a singular sovereign nation as definition of being a empire like the Roman empire when infact it can be comprised of more. I'm not confused as in that I understand the Anglo-American relationship and by addressing you here it's pulling the topic off into a different direction.

The United States gives more charity to the world, then any other nation. I do agree we shouldn't aid dictators, and country's that are undeserving. We are a shell of our once proud self since the US is in a post-industrial era as we speak. Our biggest exports are what, trash, waste, weapons and food ? America is ran like a corporation and that's what you get with free enterprise capitalism. Corporations do favors for other country's, if they don't pay up then they take over for instance the municipality's in Africa.. and if the country still resists they send in the force needed to.

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Geo-Political goals of Anglo-American empire in Afghanistan/Pakistan
Economic Hitmen interview
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These things really happen, and it's sad how country's are taken over by agenda's that benefit the few.

Which American corporations have done that? Provide names, dates and places.

As to giving charity that should be an individual matter. Governments have no right to be "charitable" with money taken from its citizens by force. Taxation is theft. Sometime it is necessary for survival but never for being "charitable".

ruveyn

i feel like our country has committed suicide after the iraq war, the arizona law, and other unjust decisions.

what is next?

Why Iraq? How about Viet Nam or Korea or Bosnia? We lost ten times as many of our people in Viet Nam as have been lost in Iraq and Afghanistan taken together.

Eventually we will be sufficiently impoverished that we can no longer play World Cop. Let the Chinese have their turn at it.

ruveyn

Bad idea. They'll probably make the US look like soft and gentle.

Bad idea for the rest of the world. It'll make us look good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mo ... _countries

http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies ... phic_N.htm

http://www.forbes.com/2008/12/24/americ ... eaves.html

I'm not talking about corporations, or federal aid either.. I'm talking about citizens contribution to charitable causes. But since you brought it up, American aid and American corporations also donate the most to the people who need it. I don't view this as a bad thing, but the percentage of GDP in which it's budgeted in is rather low, but still is better than any others. I hope you find this resourceful and learned something new then.. since it's evident you where not aware of the generosity of America's people as a whole.

Most country's who receive federal aid from the US (tax payers), needs to pay it back with interest. If not for mutual agreements, then for future interests like securing arms deals or military bases for instance.

I don't know about whom you have conversed with and what they have said, and that is probably what is making your rant so hard to follow through. Having travelled far and wide over the internet, I have engaged a lot of Americans in discussion. Neither am I an American.

Nevertheless, I believe that patriotism is an irrational scourge, most often used by ruling establishments to cloud the uncomfortable fact that resources in general are amassed in the hands of tiny minorities, while the vast majority literally are forced to seek boring, unamusing works - works that are unnecessary or out-right harmful for society, like advertising, telephone salesmanship or the porn industry - in order to survive. People would need to sell themselves in order to "take care of themselves".

I do not believe in any kind of patriotism for my country, since a country is a piece of land arbitrarily placed on a map due to the migrations of ethnic groups and the history of warfare, and that every country would cease to exist if no one believed them to exist.

In your case, its a bit trickier, since patriotism in the USA is heavily associated with the constitution, a constitution which obviously is working quite ineffectively today as it is virtually ensuring that no laws could be passed and the s**t caused by the progress of capitalism continues to pile up while increasingly weak governments are trying to push it through time so their successors would have to deal with it.

Moreover, if I ain't mistaken, your idea of liberty is akin to "sittin' on a porch with a rifle on the knees and a stray hat shielding the rays of the sun, minding my own business". Even if that isn't the case, individualism is a deeply flawed concept which often ends up opposing itself. If every individual was self-sustaining, as in the pre-industrial age (and that was not true even then, look at the extended families and the social control of the village life), that would make sense. Nowadays, most of us in any given western country are forced to seek employment in order to sustain ourselves - thus we are forced to alter our lifestyles, our choices and our words to what the employers and/or the customers want to hear. The reason for this fact is that 1% of Earth's population are controlling 40% of the planet's resources, and the vast majority of us simply need to work to have access to food, water, electricity, heating, healthcare and so on.

I find such a system deeply flawed and twisted. Human beings should live to pursue arts and love, to explore space and to do things which are useful, not working at the Big Mac.

Thumbs down for patriotism, except for the future society which will bring us paradise on Earth

Dr Horrible, you are my hero.

What you are saying is that you are not loyal to your country but to a set of principles you feel your country should stand for. I agree.[/quote]

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I never thought I would read this ever.

what is wrong with exporting food to trade for other goods. The U.S. is very good a producing food.

ruveyn

The Arizona law you speak of is a crucial start to a stronger national security policy and helps protect the jobs and social services available to citizens and green card holders.

I do understand where u are coming from, and yes it is impractical to think of oneself as a self-sustaining individual in the world we currently live in. Please understand, I am not a patriot in the sense that I love America as an entity, but rather I am a patriot in the idealogical sense... in other words, I value the personal freedoms that we, as Americans, are supposed to be guaranteed, and I am also a strong believer in self-reliance (again, it is impractical to attempt a completely self-sustaining existence in the way our society works today, however I do not believe that one should completely rely on everyone and everything outside of him/herself in order to survive), and that moral integrity is an essential thing to have, regardless of religion, political views, etc. If you really narrow it down to the fundamental problem at hand, you will find that most people in America simply do not care about the nation's affairs enough to even think about it, much less do something about it. This is the reason why the big corporations and banking fat-cats have essentially seized control of everything - after all, how does a democracy work when 90% of the people aren't participating? Also, people seem to be looking at the more superficial problems, not focusing at the true problems at hand. For instance, that lady that's running for Congress, Christine O'Donnell if my memory serves me correctly, that kinda screwed around with witchcraft in High School. That insignificant little detail has been the subject of debate on nearly every news show I have seen for the past couple weeks at least. We've got Congress bugging out from a vote to lower our taxes in the hopes of raising them, and everybody's arguing over whether we should vote for someone who, God forbid, screwed around in High School? I think my point is pretty clear. I believe in moral values, self-reliance, freedom, progress, and respect for your fellow human beings. Politics I could care less about if it wasn't screwing with my life at such a high degree.

When it comes down to it, I just want the ability to go about my life, always working to better myself, and maybe even help out the rest of humanity too. The only reason I actually care about the affairs of our government is because of the widespread sophistry, corruption, and extortion that plagues this country, so much so that it adversely affects the everyday lives of everyone in America, myself included.

QFT+1
i want to know why all the [previous] democratic supporters seem to be staying home rather than supporting the party they supported 2 years ago? don' they get that politics is merely the art of the possible and NOT the art of the perfected? don't they understand that a democratic non-vote is morally equivalent to a republican yes vote? IOW if you throw away your democratic vote and allow a repub to win, you might as well vote for the damned repub in the first place! how could that nightmare possibly be a better thing [for the reluctant democratic voter] than voting for the democrat even if s/he is not perfect? this reminds me of "cutting off one's nose in order to spite one's face." in response to "blue dog" people who believe the dems should emulate the repubs, harry truman said it best when he said [paraphrased] that when it comes down to a choice between a pretend-repub [a democrat acting republican] and a real repub, the american voting public will choose the latter every time. god, i wish we could be living in two different countries.

For the voting public to be inspired to vote for a political party that party must indicate clear evidence it was willing to work for the benefit of the voters. Obama convinced a lot of people he was enthusiastic for a major change in direction and people voted for him. Since election he has repeatedly demonstrated his loyalty to the financial crooks who scammed the public into a major recession and his legal and foreign policies have been very much in line with those of his predecessor. No real change at all. It's not that the Democratic voters are pseudo Democrats, its that the Democratic politicians are pseudo Democrats and not worth the vote.