But you know.....Stem Cells are unethical

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Avoid waste - recycle - save the planet.

Great idea.

So the other day I discovered that there is an exhibit touring around with dissected plasticized bodies - I trust of people who volunteered in order to fight waste. $16 bucks a head for classes of little school kiddies to see these green corpses.

SUCH a good idea to fight human waste [pun intended]. Anyone going to volunteer?

It's great for people like Amy Winehouse who have sizable income and a bad habit with dirty needles.

Now you're just being arrogant and elitist.

Wait you've claimed you are a math major, a history major, and now a biology major?!?!? Which is it, though I seriously doubt you're any of the above.

Maybe I should start taking screenshots and then posting the image whenever you make a claim and then post the image showing what you claimed last time...

He said he nearly had enough credits to qualify for a math major and I don't recall him ever saying that he was a history major.

Again, you're stealing tactics from your talking head masters of fudging what the other person said and vilifying them for your "misunderstanding".

Skyfather, Orwell actually did say he was a History Major (although he doesn't consider it a "real" major due to a bit of anti-social science snobbery).

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt144590.html

So we have Orwell as having a biology degree, a history degree, and a lot of math credits. I don't think that's too unlikely.

I guess it depends on how rapid the industrialization and post-industrialization of Africa is. Even the least religious country in Africa is still more religious than America (the most religious of the industrialized nations).

Ha. I forgot about that. Probably for the reason you listed.

Perhaps you meant anti social-science snobbery. There is a difference.

Hyphens siphons! Who the 'ell cares?!

I do not believe I have contradicted myself in this respect. Are you under the impression that those majors are somehow mutually exclusive?

I'm not stealing tactics, I just noticed he was making all these claims which are starting to sound fishy. It is called making false claims about your expertise in order to give yourself credibility you don't have. It is an unethical form debating.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/ ... 5628.shtml

Looks to me based off of CBS News (a liberal news source), that you don't know what you're talking about Orwell. It didn't even take me 5 minutes to find a left wing source to refute your claim.

For all the emotional debate that began about a decade ago on allowing the use of embryonic stem cells, it's adult stem cells that are in human testing today. An extensive review of stem cell projects and interviews with two dozen experts reveal a wide range of potential treatments.

Morley Safer reported for "60 Minutes" this summer on the rapidly increasing trend of "regenerative medicine," where cells in the human body are manipulated into regrowing damaged tissues.

Researchers have created beating hearts, ears and bladders using stem cells. Biotech companies and the Pentagon have invested hundreds of millions of dollars in research that could profoundly change millions of lives.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/ ... 5628.shtml

Whatever your disagreements with Orwell, to question his ethics is disgraceful. I do not agree totally with everything he posts but he is undoubtedly one of the best informed and most ethical of the people on this forum.

That explains why it took me under 5 minutes to completely and utterly destroy what he said claiming his expertise in biology, with a pro-abortion left wing source no less.

EDIT: Inuyasha, you grade F Con-Artist, that wasn't "complete and utter destruction" and CBS isn't a "leftwing, pro-Abortion source".

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I have made no false claims about my educational background.


You are incorrect. I know precisely what I am talking about here.

1) CBS doesn't have the same kind of explicit partisan agenda that you would see from Fox on the right or Huffington Post on the left. They're just boring news.
2) Scientific journalism universally sucks. I cannot remember the last time I saw an accurate media report on any scientific matter.
3) You apparently did not read either my post or your article very closely.


Of course it is. Embyronic stem cell research was effectively banned in this country for nearly a decade. Researchers made do with adult stem cells as best they could.


Yeah, those would be the induced Pluripotent stem cells (iPS) that I referred to earlier. As I said, they show some promise (greatly sensationalized in that article) but they do not match the potential of embryonic stem cells. The only advantage they have is that you can get autologous donations, avoiding the typical immunological problems that would otherwise have to be dealt with. But such adult stem cells are not, barring a great leap forward in genetic reprogramming techniques, capable of treating any genetically determined condition. And there are some tissues that they cannot readily generate.


And that research would be a lot farther along if it hadn't been held back by die-hard pro-lifers. This kind of Luddism is not just an academic concern. Lives are on the line here.