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What is your opinion of Bill?
I always agree with Bill 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
I always agree with Bill 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
I usually agree with Bill 10%  10%  [ 5 ]
I usually agree with Bill 10%  10%  [ 5 ]
I agree with Bill 50/50 10%  10%  [ 5 ]
I agree with Bill 50/50 10%  10%  [ 5 ]
I usually disagree with Bill 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
I usually disagree with Bill 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
I always disagree with Bill 21%  21%  [ 11 ]
I always disagree with Bill 21%  21%  [ 11 ]
Total votes : 52

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23 Jun 2006, 3:26 pm

Bill O'Reilly ... Well, I can't stand his viewpoints, to be honest.

I have to say, though ... Given his tendency to interrupt people, his tendency to be stubborn and arrogant, his tendency for control and structure, his overwhelming passion for history and politics, and his desire to speak from a podium to everyone else instead of engaging in two-way communication ... these are sort of aspie tendencies.

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03 Jul 2006, 11:34 am

These poll results are a bit disturbing. The majority of people ALWAYS disagree with him. Personaly, I'm about 50/50. the truth is often in the middle.

This poll along with several posts here, seem to incicate that many aspies hold extreme leftist views. Is this due to how asperger's affects the brain?? Or is it due to the demographics of those who post here?? Or something else??


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03 Jul 2006, 12:10 pm

Scrapheap wrote:
Personaly, I'm about 50/50. the truth is often in the middle.


Exactly my point of view.

I used to like O´Reilly, except for his interviewing style. His points were often fair, he always pointed out what was going wrong with what was going right. But, I think he kind of went off the deep end a little when he got really popular. I haven´t had cable for about half a year, so I can´t really say whats going on now.



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03 Jul 2006, 2:02 pm

Scrapheap wrote:
These poll results are a bit disturbing. The majority of people ALWAYS disagree with him. Personaly, I'm about 50/50. the truth is often in the middle.

This poll along with several posts here, seem to incicate that many aspies hold extreme leftist views. Is this due to how asperger's affects the brain?? Or is it due to the demographics of those who post here?? Or something else??

I think it is how AS affects the brain in comparison to the rest of society. Left-wing policies tend to focus on helping the disenfranchised and considering that we are a part of a group that is relatively disenfranchised we feel that such policies are the best. Tolerance, fairness and compassion are things that aspies being different, subject to unfairness, and in need of kindness tend to support and they are the core values of the left. Of course, that is just my hypothesis on the matter, it could be entirely wrong but I think it is at least partially plausible. I didn't vote on this though because I have never bothered watching the O'Reilly Factor, I rarely watch television as it is. I dunno, is this thread about a dude with mostly strong conservative values really enough to determine the slant of the people in the forum though? Though I guess we could assume most are, there was even a thread a while back showing a strong left majority. However, I think that was before some of them appeared to leave in disgust because they thought that the forum became overrun with right-wingers.



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04 Jul 2006, 5:58 am

I'd say there are a few loud conservatives, but I get the impression these forums are pretty liberal.

Not that any of this surprises me. (Hardly anything surprises me these days)



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05 Jul 2006, 1:54 am

I LOVE BILL!! !! ! he may not be always right, but he gets to the cold hard truth about things, and doesn't "pussyfoot" around issues like so many other news analysts. if any of you aspies dont understand "pussyfoot", look it up.

Bill O'Reilly Rocks!



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05 Jul 2006, 3:16 am

From what I've seen of Bill O'Rielly, he's too stupid to see the truth so he makes up his own.



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05 Jul 2006, 4:10 am

Scrapheap wrote:
These poll results are a bit disturbing. The majority of people ALWAYS disagree with him. Personaly, I'm about 50/50. the truth is often in the middle.

This poll along with several posts here, seem to incicate that many aspies hold extreme leftist views. Is this due to how asperger's affects the brain?? Or is it due to the demographics of those who post here?? Or something else??


I don't know if we all hold extreme leftist views, since I've read posts from a few that are extremely right. I suspect the majority, however, may be more leftist than the mainstream population. I certainly see a pattern, regardless, of aspies holding views that are not generally accepted well by the mainstream.

I think that most NTs who engage in politics don't really think too deeply about things and are impressed by what they read. I think we may actually do more research into the matter than most NTs do. I get the impression that most aspies don't like to be proven wrong. I do believe, however, that some aspies will cater to a particular source over all others and get their info from that source. I tend to believe that some aspies may cling to certain political preferences, because it helps provide structure. Overall, though, I think that most aspies that are interested in political viewpoints tend to do quite a bit of research. For those that don't do as much research, I suspect their political aspirations may resemble those of NTs. They feel they should hold a view, so they hold a view of which best seems to fit them or their family or whatever.

I think the way AS affects the brain may push an aspie to have a hardline view of something, if not even obsessive. This can occur with politics, I suppose. What an aspie may support probably is not coming from neurology, but rather from the conditions in which they were brought up.

Some leftist groups tend to express a tolerance of differences, and that may be why some aspies cater to the left. Some AS types may identify with the kind of bullying tactics of the Republican party, and associate them with some of what happened with bullies at school. I think there's lots of factors involved.

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05 Jul 2006, 7:49 pm

Xuincherguixe wrote:
From what I've seen of Bill O'Rielly, he's too stupid to see the truth so he makes up his own.


I've caught him using confirmation bias from time to time. When the authors of "Freakonomics" were guests, he was extremely dismissive of thier results showing the link between abortion and crime.

Are you saying he's too stupid just to crack on him or are you serious?


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05 Jul 2006, 9:10 pm

I was being serious.



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06 Jul 2006, 2:53 pm

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I was being serious.


He's doltish and pig-headed at times, but stupid is a poor choice of words. :wink:

Hey, Xuincherguixe, are you still doing that "Bad Advice" Column?? You had some pretty funny $hit posted there!!


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06 Jul 2006, 7:58 pm

Anyone who thinks Stephen Colbert is bad simply because his name sounds French does not deserve to be called "Newsworthy" material.


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21 Jul 2006, 11:43 am

I almost always agree with Bill. Until the other night when he said there should be mandatory drug tests of all school children through high school.