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29 Dec 2010, 8:37 pm

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Ha, why don't you go there. China is still as oppressive as ever. They have given up their communist skin but not the authoritarian bones.


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29 Dec 2010, 9:30 pm

91 wrote:
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Ha, why don't you go there. China is still as oppressive as ever. They have given up their communist skin but not the authoritarian bones.


I'm pretty sure people aren't dying anymore by the tens of millions from starvation or other more violent means like they were during the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution. China is most certainly freer than it was under the leadership of Mao Zedong.



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29 Dec 2010, 9:42 pm

Jacoby wrote:
91 wrote:
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Ha, why don't you go there. China is still as oppressive as ever. They have given up their communist skin but not the authoritarian bones.


I'm pretty sure people aren't dying anymore by the tens of millions from starvation or other more violent means like they were during the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution. China is most certainly freer than it was under the leadership of Mao Zedong.


Economic prosperity changes the nature of the oppression. It does not equate to the people being in any way more free (by your logic the Soviet Union in the eighties was freer than it was in the fifties). In point of fact, China is less free than it was ten years ago. Many of the Third Generation honestly believed that China would become democratic.


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30 Dec 2010, 12:51 am

Jacoby wrote:

But yes, all collectivists have an "inner fascist".


NO. Anarcho-collectivists don't

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Everyone that believe in the state as a means to achieving their goals have an "inner fascist".


That makes them statist, NOT fascist - which are different


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30 Dec 2010, 1:58 am

Warsie wrote:
Jacoby wrote:

But yes, all collectivists have an "inner fascist".


NO. Anarcho-collectivists don't

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Everyone that believe in the state as a means to achieving their goals have an "inner fascist".


That makes them statist, NOT fascist - which are different


How does anarcho-collectivism work? What if someone doesn't want to be part of the collective? Is it voluntary?

Well, all fascists are statists but I guess not all statists are technically fascists. "Inner fascist" seemed more like a looser term.