Am I too lost to be saved?

Post Reply New Topic

I will not swear to it - yea be yea and all that - but I think I have heard some definition A Christians [about whose relationship to definition B I know nothing] say that this or that type of person is beyond hope.

And of course that is heresy, but that is why there is more than one church in town.

But in any case, I think if I read Paul aright, without going whole hog Calvinist, by his non-Arminian view apostates are irredeemible. But I did not check that before writing. If I misrepresent him, nae doot somebody will correct me,

Paul is ennea-1 and while very highfunctioning as they go, he does have a tendency to fall into legalism.

Some theologies get very polarized and real fringe.

That is one advantage to the Church of Rome - the overriding organization with its emphasis on tradition tends to slow the descent toward loony theology seen in some splinter groups of splinter groups.

Awesomely Glorious -

I am not up on the 5-factor test, it would be a bit of a learning curve.

As for MBTI, while our working group - roughly the same as my Inner Circle - has concluded it measures something real, it is much less accessible to me, and I would not personally advise anybody to try to MBTI type someone not available for testing

Hoewever, our resident MBTI tester suggests ENTJ as a solid option.

MasterJedi - I HAD NO IDEA. I have wrongly assessed you. Even when you said the initial text was song lyrics, I still though you were the [by my standards, but I have a particular and rare standpoint] indifferent and eccentric poet.

I will update my dossier on you.

I've got some song lyrics to post as well - to sound of moans, wails, and facepalms in D#


Amazing Grace

"Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me....
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now, I see.

T'was Grace that taught...
my heart to fear.
And Grace, my fears relieved.
How precious did that Grace appear...
the hour I first believed.

Through many dangers, toils and snares...
we have already come.
T'was Grace that brought us safe thus far...
and Grace will lead us home.

The Lord has promised good to me...
His word my hope secures.
He will my shield and portion be...
as long as life endures.

Yea, when this flesh and heart shall fail,
and mortal life shall cease,
I shall possess within the veil,
a life of joy and peace.

When we've been here ten thousand years...
bright shining as the sun.
We've no less days to sing God's praise...
then when we've first begun.

"Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me....
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now, I see.

Thank you, thank you THANK you -

for posting more than the three verses that is all even class hymnals will include in these keep the service short, I don't want to miss the game times.

It is amazing how many songs - I could list but it would get long - sound really stupid until you have walked in the mocassins.

if you asked me just do what you want and feel like and dont be oppresed by others and their perversion if you ask me if god is truly kind& forgiven then he'll forgive you for all sins just be a man to him not a woose at least thats what i'll do

claimed age 16 - feel free to ignore this, but if you have not read C S Lewis' The Last Battle you might find it interesting.

Or not - to be fair I would not have.