Alexander Lukashenko - greatest leader in the world today

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07 Jan 2011, 6:22 am

I think communism was probably one of those things that looked good on paper, and that Marx and Engels had good intentions, but did not work in real life. And it also became synonymous with human rights abuses, and even genocide in some countries.


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07 Jan 2011, 12:37 pm

Years ago someone wrote a newspaper opinion column claiming the superiority of Free Market Reforms by claiming the airport in Poland to be superior to that of Belarus, this idea that from Poland to Belarus and you move into a world of barbarism from civilisation. This was written just a couple of years into Lukashenko's time in power. This is why it's funny to have read something recently where someone goes on about how moving from Poland into Belarus is moving from barbarism to civilisation! Remember that during Soviet times Poland was heavily subsidised and before the East Bloc it was more prosperous than Russia was. So though the person in the '90s was suggesting the superiority of Free Market Reform with that airport businesses, all that was observed was the legacy of centuries, including the Soviet times favourable to Poland when compared with the core of the Soviet so-called empire. Now, fifteen years later or so, someone suggests the opposite, that Belarus is the outpost of civilisation and Poland is comparatively barbarous. Funny.

I did not say by the way that Belarus is a utopia, I'm simply pointing out that compared to the rest of the region it is... is Belarus known for its sex slaves? I don't think so.

Belarus has one big advantage that helped it avoid the horror of Reforms, and that is as the big centre of manufactured goods in the USSR and its lack of raw materials forced those running the place to steer clear of free market reforms that would have destroyed everything. In Russia they have oil, gas, minerals, these things cannot be destroyed by insane economic policies, there are always people abroad who will buy these things and make money for oligarchs. Slovakia was a place that was in a similar situation to Belarus and they separated from the Czechs to get out from ruinous reforms and when Vladimir Meciar ran the place he embarrassed his colleagues through Eastern Europe. Naturally Slovakia was dubbed "the black hole in the heart of Europe" by Madeleine Albright and he was successfully ousted by the Americans. The new ruler Dzurinda then brought the ruin to Slovakia that everyone said was inevitable after separation from St Vaclav Havel's country...



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07 Jan 2011, 3:26 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
I think communism was probably one of those things that looked good on paper, and that Marx and Engels had good intentions, but did not work in real life. And it also became synonymous with human rights abuses, and even genocide in some countries.


First comes Communism. The comes the Gulag.

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07 Jan 2011, 3:46 pm

First comes capitalism then comes the food bank?


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07 Jan 2011, 4:06 pm

visagrunt wrote:
First comes capitalism then comes the food bank?


Not necessarily, but even when so, it is less deadly and brutal than communism, which is a freedom crushing ideology. By the way, the Communist countries could not back then and cannot now feed themselves. If the capitalists have a food bank it is because of surplus food production which is and was unknown in communist countries.

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07 Jan 2011, 5:34 pm

Xenon13, I do not believe that the mess in Poland and Slovakia is the fault of capitalism. It is the fault of those nations adopting the debt-driven theories of the Wall Street crowd.
Now, as far as Belarus is concerned, I have never heard that Lukashenko is brutal. He is simply Soviet authoritarian. Does he allow private farming? The big problem in the USSR was the collective farming that failed. China gave that up in the late 70s.