Etiquette for folks 'not taking it the wrong way"

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Sort of? Here is what Jefferson said:

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants"

Sort of, indeed.

ruveyn

@AceOfSpades: Please note that Sinsboldly is female.

@Inuyasha (or the Right in general): So the Right can say anything they want with complete impunity, but if the Left ever criticizes the Right's rhetoric, then they are evil and oppressive? I dunno, it just seems kind of hypocritical to maintain that one side can say anything, and the other side should be forbidden from criticizing them.

I expected better from you Orwell.

If some nut had tried to assassinate Palin, you would have been saying the guy was simply nuts and the far-left pundits had nothing to do with it.

Quite frankly, I think AceOfSpades and myself couldn't care less what gender Sinsboldy is what she said was still a smear and flamebait.

You're accusing people of being accessories to murder with absolutely no evidence, and I know that you know better.

Well, that would depend on what the "far-left" pundits had actually been saying.


I don't see where I ever made such an accusation. It would appear that you are hallucinating yet again. Please note that I have never promoted the stances you attribute to me, and that I have in fact taken the opposite stance in THIS THREAD.

Out of curiosity, for all the crying the right is doing right now about how they're being oppressed and targeted, are there actually any calls to take legal action against Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, or other right-wing pundits? Is there anyone out there advocating for Beck to be prosecuted as an accessory to murder, or for the government to shut down Limbaugh's radio show? Or is this nothing more than yet another manifestation of the right wing's perseuction complex?

Yeah the fact that he turned out to be a she doesn't really matter. She was trying to look all big and bad rather than actually addressing the issues, which looked like a typical high school macho parody.

Despite all the talk about political affiliation having nothing to do with the man's insanity, it seems like people can't hear it over the sound of their piss hitting the floor. His obsession goes back to 2007 before Sarah Palin OR the tea party were heard of. No one has any responsibility in making sure their speech is extremist-proof, just like no musician is responsible for what was in a spree killer's CD collection.

I think that since many of the liberals who have been calling for civility in public discourse have spent a great deal of time accusing everybody from Sarah Palin to Rush Limbaugh for this national tragedy in Arizona before all the evidence is in, it has become a difficult thing to take liberals seriously.

It's kinda proved my point as to why I don't even consider liberal sources to be remotely trustworthy.

Heck for all people here slam Glenn Beck, he's certainly behaved more rationally and less partisan than any liberal member that has posted a commentary here.

No response; I am unsurprised. But I am going to press this issue until you admit that you are wrong: who on the left is calling for legal action against any right-wing figure in connection to the recent shooting of Representative Giffords? Is the Left's greatest crime here just expressing disagreement or disapproval of what the Right says, or are they actually taking tangible and threatening action against freedom of speech and the press with this shooting as the stated justification?

Some definitely are. Robert Brady and Ruben Hinajosa are calling for legislation to ban speech and imagery that they feel is threatening to public officials specifically noting Palin and Jim Clyburn wants to reinstate the "fairness doctrine". I'm sure there are plenty more but that's off the top of my head.

Lucky for us, I doubt the GOP goes for any of them with how partisan this whole thing has gotten. Should be a good litmus test tho for any potential phonies in the new congress.

I'd say they actually have a legitimate grievance this time; even paranoids have enemies after all.

denying that hate speech can have lethal ramifications is akin to whistling past the graveyard. who else but the right-wingers are virtually putting bullseye targets on their opponents? who else but right-wingers brandish weapons and bloody talk around their opponents and their supporters? do you see supporters of dennis kucinich behave in this manner? of nancy pelosi? being told that it is only raining while getting my leg marinated in right-wing pee is something i just can never comfortably endure.

Democrats use "rhetoric" like that all the time, I don't know what you're talking about.

Do we have to kid proof our language so nobody can take something literally? You're making Loughner's rants on grammar sound legitimate now and not completely delusional.

democrats are not the ones bringing guns to the campaign functions of their opponents and making not-so-veiled threats ["second amendment methods of redress"] of violence. it is merely common decency to not use violent imagery in attacking your opponents, for ANY reason.

You shouldn't make statements like that until you have the facts.

He did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left. He wasn’t on the right.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/jar ... ews_b48040

You know if you weren't bashing public figures like you were, you and a lot of the mainstream media would be looking at lawsuits for libel and slander about now. Thing is, the mainstream media may end up facing lawsuits from Beck, Palin, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity, etc. if they can prove this is being done out of malice. Further, it looks like the Conservative Pundits could win too if they can prove this slander is being done out of malice.

From the beginning, it seems to me that the words I've been hearing from the Republican Party are basically words of condolences and of prayers for the Gifford family as well as for all those who were killed or injured in the tragedy. But from the Democrat Party I've been hearing mostly spin for political reasons, political spin even before anyone knew what the death toll of this tragedy was.

Agreed, I find it dispicable that the Dems are trying to use the victims of this heinous tragedy to further their political agenda, but I'm not surprised.