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What should Orwell do about his religious beliefs?

Stay a liberal Christian	8%	[ 3 ]
Join an Eastern Religion	0%	[ 0 ]
Become Jewish	8%	[ 3 ]
Become a Muslim	5%	[ 2 ]
Convert to Catholicism or Orthodoxy	5%	[ 2 ]
Become an Evangelical Protestant	5%	[ 2 ]
Join a Christian off-shoot	3%	[ 1 ]
Join a cult	16%	[ 6 ]
Become non-religious	5%	[ 2 ]
Join the STRIDENT atheists.	14%	[ 5 ]
I don't care, I just want to see the results.	30%	[ 11 ]

Total votes : 37

ikorack
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12 Jan 2011, 10:48 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

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Jacoby wrote:

I picked he should become a Muslim

I think he would actually like that.

Not a fan of Islam.

Incidentally, why are Catholicism and Orthodoxy lumped together? I mean, I don't have any issues with the Orthodox at all, but I could never be part of the Roman Catholic Church.

The main difference in doctrine between the two seems to be that one preferred Rome as main city and the other didn't...

Isn't it also an issue with the Nicene Creed?

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12 Jan 2011, 10:56 pm

ikorack wrote:

Vexcalibur wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

I picked he should become a Muslim

I think he would actually like that.

Not a fan of Islam.

Incidentally, why are Catholicism and Orthodoxy lumped together? I mean, I don't have any issues with the Orthodox at all, but I could never be part of the Roman Catholic Church.

The main difference in doctrine between the two seems to be that one preferred Rome as main city and the other didn't...

Isn't it also an issue with the Nicene Creed?

No, not at all. The Orthodox and Catholic churches split around the millenium, while the Nicene creed was in the 4th century. The real issue between the two groups is a more abstract bit of the trinity, the relation between the Father and the Son.

There were other issues about the power of Rome vs the other traditional leaders of the church, and so on.

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12 Jan 2011, 11:03 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

I picked he should become a Muslim

I think he would actually like that.

Not a fan of Islam.

Incidentally, why are Catholicism and Orthodoxy lumped together? I mean, I don't have any issues with the Orthodox at all, but I could never be part of the Roman Catholic Church.

The main difference in doctrine between the two seems to be that one preferred Rome as main city and the other didn't...

Perhaps initially, but they have subsequently had about a millennium to develop in their own separate directions. They definitely have more substantive differences than the mere politics that precipitated the original split. Additionally, Orthodoxy (ironically enough, given the name) isn't nearly so monolithic as Catholicism.

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12 Jan 2011, 11:14 pm

Orwell wrote:

Vexcalibur wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

I picked he should become a Muslim

I think he would actually like that.

Not a fan of Islam.

Incidentally, why are Catholicism and Orthodoxy lumped together? I mean, I don't have any issues with the Orthodox at all, but I could never be part of the Roman Catholic Church.

The main difference in doctrine between the two seems to be that one preferred Rome as main city and the other didn't...

Well, there have also been some signs that relations between the two sides have warmed up. Even further, Catholicism isn't so theologically monolithic either, as Catholics with a more Eastern theology do exist.

There have been developments going either direction, but the Catholics have tended to be more in line with the logical methods of Augustine and later Aquinas, while the Orthodox have tended more towards mysticism and mystery.

It is true that Orthodoxy does not tend to have as much unity as Catholicism.

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13 Jan 2011, 12:35 am

Orwell wrote:

Vexcalibur wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

I picked he should become a Muslim

I think he would actually like that.

Not a fan of Islam.

Incidentally, why are Catholicism and Orthodoxy lumped together? I mean, I don't have any issues with the Orthodox at all, but I could never be part of the Roman Catholic Church.

The main difference in doctrine between the two seems to be that one preferred Rome as main city and the other didn't...

Catholics are far from monolithic. I think that what happens is that the few Catholics around US tend to be more on the Fundie side of things. But where I live (they are the majority) things are very varied and Catholics differ in everything from one another...

I guess it is in part because of how they had to embrace paganism to become popular with the natives.

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13 Jan 2011, 5:26 am

Where's the "become a Wiccan with the rest of us damned hippies" option?

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13 Jan 2011, 5:29 am

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

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Orwell keep on truckin' man

LOL

YER DOIN' IT WRONG.

Seriously, don't you damned kids have any respect for R. Crumb? One of the great artists of the 20th Century! :lol:

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13 Jan 2011, 9:31 am

PanoramaIsland wrote:

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

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Orwell keep on truckin' man

LOL

YER DOIN' IT WRONG.

Seriously, don't you damned kids have any respect for R. Crumb? One of the great artists of the 20th Century! :lol:

It's a Crumby keeper keepin' on topic

I voted that Orwell does not need to depent, repent or postpent. For such a young person he has respect for himself. [Sadly, people do change. When he is my age ( and i will have passed on by then) he could be very different.] Very tenacious debater, rebater and postbater.

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13 Jan 2011, 10:25 am

PanoramaIsland wrote:

Where's the "become a Wiccan with the rest of us damned hippies" option?

That would probably fall under "join a cult."

You damn hippy.

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13 Jan 2011, 2:55 pm

Orwell wrote:

PanoramaIsland wrote:

Where's the "become a Wiccan with the rest of us damned hippies" option?

That would probably fall under "join a cult."

You damn hippy.

Wicca is not a cult. It hardly even has enough structure to be considered a religion!

...and I'm not a Wiccan. Any more.

I am a damned hippie! I'm a bleeding-heart, animal-huggin', oppressed-peoples'-liberation-supportin', mohawk-wearin', San Franciscan left-wing hippie, and y'all better respect that.

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13 Jan 2011, 3:01 pm

PanoramaIsland wrote:

Wicca is not a cult. It hardly even has enough structure to be considered a religion!

The term "cult" can be pretty broad, and for purposes of the poll I would assume it had a pretty loose definition.

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I am a damned hippie! I'm a bleeding-heart, animal-huggin', oppressed-peoples'-liberation-supportin', mohawk-wearin', San Franciscan left-wing hippie, and y'all better respect that.

You probably shop at Whole Foods, don't you?

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13 Jan 2011, 3:04 pm

Orwell wrote:

:lol:

Pfft. I don't need theological advice from a nihilist.

I always thought he was more of a dadaist.

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13 Jan 2011, 3:16 pm

Orwell wrote:

PanoramaIsland wrote:

Wicca is not a cult. It hardly even has enough structure to be considered a religion!

The term "cult" can be pretty broad, and for purposes of the poll I would assume it had a pretty loose definition.

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I am a damned hippie! I'm a bleeding-heart, animal-huggin', oppressed-peoples'-liberation-supportin', mohawk-wearin', San Franciscan left-wing hippie, and y'all better respect that.

You probably shop at Whole Foods, don't you?

Whole Foods? Hell no! They're fakers. They charge local/organic/sustainable/humane prices, but most of the food they sell isn't local/organic/sustainable/humane at all. Plus, they treat their employees poorly.

Me? I shop at the local farmer's market, at Trader Joe's for inexpensive snacky/quick-n-easy foods (not exactly hippie-certified either, but at least they're cheap!), and first and foremost at the one and only Rainbow Grocery (http://www.rainbow.coop/) - a certified 100% socialist, tree-huggin', worker-owned left-wing grocery cooperative with the best, tastiest, most ethical food on the goddamned planet! Plus, they have things like masa and and cocoa beans in bulk!

Whole Foods... Whattaya take me for, a damned yuppie?

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13 Jan 2011, 4:06 pm

I have a hard time telling the difference sometimes.

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13 Jan 2011, 5:22 pm

AwsomelyGlorious mentioned there are Eastern Rite Catholics as well as Roman Catholics. So I have decided that Orwell should be an Eastern Rite Catholic.
Orwell should join,
The Slovennian Byzantine Catholic Church or the Albanian Autocephalic Catholic or the Ukrainian Greek Uniate Catholic. Thus he can get us some good slivovitz to drink.
if he joins a mid-eastern one like the Armenian or Chaldean, he could get some good shush-kebab recipes.

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13 Jan 2011, 5:26 pm

I think he should join the Official Serbian Church of Tesla so they can can save his polyphase intrinsic electric field, known to non-engineers as "the soul."

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