Maybe God made me this way for a reason

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I said this.



I did NOT say this. I said that I have more hope in my life as a non-believer than I had as a believer.

Last edited by jonathan79 on 08 Jul 2006, 5:00 am, edited 2 times in total.

Fuzzy has provided some of the truest statements that a believer can provide. Although I have to disagree with this statement:

"Emp and atheists have chosen to delay this indefinately."

But, I have no choice, I´m an atheist.

Also, please do say that you feel sad for us DataImzadi, that means you pity us, which means you think that you´re better than we are.

Jonathan79, your topic sentence came out like this:

If taken separately from the rest of your statement. What confused me is that I didn't link the unknown believer to you since you used an indefinite article that is meant to insinuate any old believer. At least you corrected me in that wasn't your intention, but your words still had a confusing factor in them, good day.

Thats the problem right there, I´m sorry, but I cannot help it if you choose to take part of my statement and ignore the rest and confuse yourself.

I didn't ignore the rest of your statement, I just couldn't link your topic sentence to yourself since it was indefinite. The rest of your statement was all about you and I have no reason to comment on that. Now that I'm awake, your first sentence was hypothetical in that it was using indefinite people that could/couldn't be you and could/couldn't be the same person, right? My problem was I read it as being two separate people and it came out like a statement. It's really not a misread but more of I can take it multiple ways since it allows for that. However, that was unfair of me without asking you for your intentions first, I'll apologize for that.

Anyway, now that I had some sleep, I found another thing:

Where in your first post do you use the words for any form of equality or even 'as much as'. If you can find it, I'll apologize for wasting your time (Something I do for no real reason).

Don't forget that you did correct me that you were talking about yourself in every sentence, however I can't find where you said 'as much as' like you did. I'm probably getting on your nerves so if this irritates you, please have some patience with me. =\

If a person went around seriously insisting that pixies and dragons exist, a sensible person would think he is a freakin' loon, and would have little respect for him.

Seriously insisting that a god exists is the SAME SITUATION as that. Pixies, dragons, and gods are just MYTHOLOGY. And while I quite enjoy mythology, to seriously insist that it is actually true is just plain nuts off-your-rocker bat-shit insane.

How do you know they are just Mythology? Have you been to every single point in the universe, at the same time? That's the only way to prove they don't exist. Emp, as much as you hate it, you can't prove there is no God. But I can not prove there is a God beyond faith, so here we are at a standstill.

By pitying you, I'm not implying I'm better than you. But I am saying I have something worth having, and you dont have it.

Emp, I may be an aspie (and as proven last night at a party) I have no idea about normal human relations, even I can see that you're acting like a prick.

Hey, I might be insane, but I'm enjoying every freaking minute of it.



Anyway, you think I'm insane, I think you're insane. One of us is right. Who is it? You can't say that you're right, because there is no proof that God does not exist. I have proof he does exist, but you won't recognise that. Seems we are at an impasse. Oh isn't it lovely to be an aspie?

How do I know that pixies and dragons are just mythology??? I need not explain it. By this point, sensible people have already accepted that you fell off your rocker and hit your head a little too hard. I will not insult their intelligence by explaining it.

Nonsense. Any reasonable and sensible person can see that your position is ludicrous. It is just simply insane to attribute your Aspergers to a mythological creature (a god). Your belief is so obviously and blatantly ridiculous that it does not deserve any respect.

And if you were to claim that gods are not part of mythology, it is RIGHT THERE IN THE FREAKIN' DICTIONARY!!






Great gibbering anthropoids, mythological creatures clearly do not cause neurological conditions such as AS!! !

So, your calling us nuts because we believe in a higher power? ok gonadless!
Speaking of intellegence, you clearly don't have any whatsoever. Opps I think you better get back to work. I'm sure your boss will not be too pleased that you on a computer instead of taking orders at the drive thru.

No emp, you have to prove that they absolutely, positively aren't real. For all you know they could be living in Alpha Centuri. The point is, you have no proof there is no God or gods, making your point completely untrue and stupid, you damn idiot!

...Not to mention the fact that you didn't read my whole post, or you would have known what I meant.

Saying such a thing is symptomatic of a psychological malfunction. I think that gods and gnomes are just mythology, BUT if credible evidence of their existence was presented to me, then I would change my opinion. A belief that can never be changed under any circumstances is a psychological disorder.

God wanted everyone to be different. So I think this is why.

Oh well Emp. Add it to the list of the rest of my psychological and neurological defects. I wonder sometimes if I am as defected as people say, why can I still form intelligent thought.

Emp, may I make a supposition? I think you are an Agressive type aspie. It would explain a lot. I know how you feel. No one understands you, or anything about you, and you can't understand anybody else.
I'm Passive and more likely to blame myself for these faults than seeing problems in the world around me as you do.
I guess it's just another one of the interesting quirks that makes us aspies unique from the world around us, AND unique from each other.

I think he's just using God as a metaphor for something that can't be explained. That's all religion is anyway, metaphor. It tries to explain all the things that can't be explained through science, but it gets very convoluted after a while. Like, the bible talks about a person who could walk on water, which is completely ridiculous. And then, religion tries to debunk science as a myth to proclaim its existence as ultimate. If you want to ask the question as to why one will go to church and believe what he reads in the bible, then you need to ask the bigger question: Why do people join cults to begin with?

I have to ask, though, have you ever thought in terms of a binary tree? Well, try it. There was at one time, whether you're willing to believe it or not, two people, or should I say monkeys, which probably evolved from earlier animals, like we all just might have evolved from fish, and that means we can all be traced back to maybe protozoa who split off into two at some time. Whatever that case may be, the fact remains is that there, at one time, was the first person to have mated.

Now forward a few generations. All of a sudden, there was some sort of genetic anomaly. Maybe that could have happened due to environmental factors or birth anoxia or something, but then the brain of the newborn was different. His wiring was different. This person was a bit smarter.

Now, ask yourself? Was there some unknown reason for all this that can't be explained by science? Possibly. It may even be some sort of evolutionary seizure. Evolution progresses, and we just can't explain scientifically why it progresses the way it does, though we can see patterns through studying of fossils and what not. Now, there might be a hidden reason why evolution needed aspies. Maybe that reason has to do with knowledge progression. If that is true, aspies may hold the key to great feats of intelligence. It is thus a shame that many of us are stockboys and mail carriers and crap like that, when we can be creating technical advances that have a far greater impact. It seems that people like Temple Grandin and Albert Einstein are sort of a rarity. Nobody wants us.

- Ray M -