Tragedy to Triumph, Democrat Style

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Vigilans, you are a leftist, cause you sure are not a centrist and definately are not a Conservative. It is interesting that probably the majority of far left liberals think they are centrist or conservative when they are loony left, and think everyone whom is centrist or Conservative is stupid, evil, or dangerous. I'm including the mainstream media in this comment as well.

I see your penchant for branding people is, as always, dependable. I have not stated most of my views, or who I vote for, so unless you are psychic, you are full of it. You view politics in black and white. I think it's all black. I'm concerned with helping people and ensuring dignity and individual liberty. I don't have time for ideology, its all just hot air to me. You waste a lot of time arguing about these things because you're consumed by ideology. I think you're a bright guy, so relax, step back a little, and don't make this personal

Actually all I had to do is look at prior posts to figure out your political affiliation, I'm not saying you necessarily are looney left, that comment was more of a general statement, but you are at the very least left-leaning.

I will grant you that you post in a manner that is rational and often you seem more mature. So I would probably fit you in an endangered species category of a moderately left liberal whom is rational which seems to be a rarity these days.

However you do need to wise up on some things:

1. Conservatives were not trying to take advantage of the Tuscon Tragedy, they were just pissed off when they ended up being accused of being accessories to murder.

2. They were further pissed off that the mainstream media continued the narrative and tried to smear them as being accessories to murder even after the evidence came out showing the guy was simply crazy and his political ideology made absolutely no sense.

Rush, Beck, Palin, Hannity, etc. were entirely justified in their reactions, what the left-wing drive-by media did was completely uncalled for though not surprising.

I apologize, I didn't mean to give you the impression I believe that conservatives 'took advantage' in the same way that the left did. But my understanding of politics is that either side will squeeze a situation for every last drop that might give them an edge with the voters. This is why I really dislike 'left' and 'right'. I mean, political parties are not (correct me if I am mistaken) a part of the US constitution. It was somewhat inevitable that they would arise, but I don't believe they work in most people's best interests. When one gets too much organizational power and become monolithic, I think they represent a big threat to the individual, and spinning information becomes institutionalized as a means of winning votes. I don't even listen to the media at all which is perhaps why I don't have really strong feelings on many issues that shouldn't incite such feelings

Well strictly speaking they took advantage as best they could same as the left did, it just so happened that the role the right took in this issue was passive not active like the left. I would say their actions would be expected, after all what where they to do ignore the accusations that they are somehow responsible for inciting this mans madness into action?

I would argue the response on the right was justified.

And a lefty might argue that their assault was justified but of course only they buy into the belief that the right had some role in inciting the madman's violence.

Also instead of apologizing the left continued to try to blame conservatives when the evidence showed the guy was plain nuts.

Isn't anyone grateful that it was a Liberal Female congresswoman, rather than someone like Sarah Palin or Rush Limbaugh, who was shot?

If a Conservative had been shot, the government would probably seek to legislate a new Brady Bill or some such nonsense.

Also, this episode shows that a woman really has no business getting involved in politics. It is much too dangerous. If her husband chooses to allow her to become a congresswoman, then her husband, as the head of her family, has an obligation to protect and defend her. If her husband isn't at her side with a loaded assault rifle, then this was all his fault for letting it happen.

Excuse me, I'm upset anyone got shot.







Seriously what you said is not even remotely amusing, it is just plain sad.

I really hope you're joking around here

I think he's trying to mock Conservatives using the made up stereotypes that Leftist created to try to shut conservatives up.

That's probably the exact case, but at least there is some level of maturity to pandabear's, and even sand's, posts that I've only now been able to recognize and even slightly appreciate.

"Shut conservatives up?" Heavens No! The more ranting and raving the better!

Thanks for the great compliment!

Anyway, Sand and I are already way more mature than you, you youngster!