19 Feb 2011, 4:48 pm
ryan93 wrote:
Jewish in heritage, you mean? I've never met an atheist Muslim 
a funny thing that I have. a colleague (a turk) and I spent the day laughing about a book
we had just recieved a book about inteligent design http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atlas_of_Creation at the department. He talked about being an atheist agnoistic whatever.
At lunch I offered him some of my burrito he said "
does it have pork?
I said "why ?"
even though he was intellectually an atheist he was still a muslim.
Religion goes deeper than belief.
it is hard wired.
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19 Feb 2011, 4:51 pm
Stereotyping is spread through society and re-enforces concepts we just end up accepting.
Children are the worst effected;
Pop culture, sexed up music industry, advertising aimed at making people believe they need to look perfect, eat crap because healthy food tastes rubbish and endlessly buy things..... The list could go on and on.
As we get older we see past certain things and letting go of ideas promoted to us as kids and even now is hard to shake off.
People on the spectrum may find it harder to step away from the stuff we were thought as kids.
Maybe off topic to the original post entirely, but ah well 
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19 Feb 2011, 6:02 pm
JakobVirgil wrote:
ryan93 wrote:
Jewish in heritage, you mean? I've never met an atheist Muslim
a funny thing that I have. a colleague (a turk) and I spent the day laughing about a book
we had just recieved a book about inteligent design http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atlas_of_Creation at the department. He talked about being an atheist agnoistic whatever.
At lunch I offered him some of my burrito he said "
does it have pork?
I said "why ?"
even though he was intelectually he was still a muslim.
Religion goes deeper than belief.
it is hard wired.
Oh yeah, I understand that. many customs are derived from religion, and customs do tend to stick with people who were brought up around them. I rarely eat dog.
19 Feb 2011, 8:25 pm
19 Feb 2011, 8:59 pm
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The same could be applied to me. I envy those who've always been atheists (and what have you) their whole lives. They don't get to look back to the past and think of all the embarrassing things they did as religious people.
I've been an atheist since I was able to contemplate the idea of religion. I still feel embarrassed I only "came out" when I was thirteen
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19 Feb 2011, 9:27 pm
MCalavera wrote:
ryan93 wrote:
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The same could be applied to me. I envy those who've always been atheists (and what have you) their whole lives. They don't get to look back to the past and think of all the embarrassing things they did as religious people.
I've been an atheist since I was able to contemplate the idea of religion. I still feel embarrassed I only "came out" when I was thirteen
When I was your age (17-18), I should've browsed the Internet to do research on evolution and psychology instead of spending the whole day reading fascinating Greek/Roman myths and playing emulator games and looking up porn.
That's what made it so easy for me to be convinced into religion despite my logical way of thinking.
Funny that you mention that, because I actually believed a lot of the greek myths were true (not the god parts, obviously) until I was pretty old
I wish I had knew about wikipedia or khanacadamy at age ten, I would be a thousand times geekier than I am now
19 Feb 2011, 9:45 pm
19 Feb 2011, 9:59 pm
ryan93 wrote:
Funny that you mention that, because I actually believed a lot of the greek myths were true (not the god parts, obviously) until I was pretty old
Do you mean like the Trojan War and such?
Some people actually believe it happened, but I doubt it. The Iliad, which depicts the Trojan War, has too many mythical elements to be considered in the same way as the Gospel books (for example).
But maybe the Trojan War did happen. Only God knows.
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I wish I had knew about wikipedia or khanacadamy at age ten, I would be a thousand times geekier than I am now
Khanacademy? That one's new to me. Is it like Wikipedia (easily editable by almost anyone)?
19 Feb 2011, 10:19 pm
MCalavera wrote:
ryan93 wrote:
Funny that you mention that, because I actually believed a lot of the greek myths were true (not the god parts, obviously) until I was pretty old
Do you mean like the Trojan War and such?
Some people actually believe it happened, but I doubt it. The Iliad, which depicts the Trojan War, has too many mythical elements to be considered in the same way as the Gospel books (for example).
But maybe the Trojan War did happen. Only God knows.
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I wish I had knew about wikipedia or khanacadamy at age ten, I would be a thousand times geekier than I am now
Khanacademy? That one's new to me. Is it like Wikipedia (easily editable by almost anyone)?
That's what I was thinking of
I really thought that was a historical event Nope, KhanAcademy is a series of 10 minute lectures on basically every topic in intro Science and Math. You should check it out, if you're Scientifically Inclined. It's the reason Science Undergrads pass their course, and I would have loved to have found it years ago. All I had back then was a shoddy chemistry textbook
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As a deist, with a rather strong dislike of militant atheists and those who put too much faith in reason and science, as well as there counterparts. The kinds of people who are no better then the religiously people they oppose, I feel a bit thankful. Mind you I do think that those who are too religiously minded are children,who can't life without help, which is why many adhere to a kindly father figure of a god. Then again Atheists who denounce religion because their "prayers" weren't answered are selfish. To end my little rant, religions do not cause war on there own, we as a species are only animals with logic. we have made natural things like sex, taboo, common things like war unbelievably destructive, without the need or "love" of a higher power.
Science isn't faith, at least not to the degree wildly guessing the nature of God, and flipping a coin to pick a sacred text is. The only real problem Science suffers from is the non A Priori nature of Perception, but that is equally as big a problem for theists.
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