US Has Now Vetoed UN Resolution Opposing Illegal Israeli

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It is beginning to look like it is the other way around, and the US are part of Israel.

Cuz I'm a JEWand I think that my people should be moral.
Rule one a fruitful discussion is good faith.
If you assume I am a Propagandist if you assume I have alternative motives.
then don't speak to me.
and its spelled Israel.

I believe there is probably truth to this. Lots of people hold this belief out of fashioned crazes but many well educated people i have come across see it this way.

attempting to find the answers but i find some of it confusing at times.

here is a lecture about the matter i stuck on 10 minutes ago. might reveal a lot of truth.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdfzC5NNAew[/youtube]

Hey, I'm down with that!

The reason why the US vetos that stuff is because passing a resolution against israel would cause significant more issues than passing it.

primarily it destabilizes the balance of power in the region.

Consider:

If Israel is punished by a UN resolution that instantly emboldens the arab countries to step up their efforts to wipe israel off the map.

If the US vetos it, the arab nations get pissy at the US and thats about that.

Palestinians? No matter which way you see it, they are pawns. Pawns for their so called fellow arab muslims because the palestinian 'plight' is the very best propaganda machine for muslim nations to shift the anger and blame of their own oppressed populations: Keep them angry at the jews and at the US not at the very gov. that makes their lives miserable.

Pawns for Israel: for it is the constant suicide attacks and crap that allows them to keep pushing the envelope to claim land given to the palestinians through UN politicking , allows them to keep their own society under control by fomenting intense 'us vs them' mentality.

Pawns for Europe since the euro nations make a lot of billion+ worth deals selling weapons and materiel, infrastructure and oil contracts to other arab nations...because its the only way to get modern gear since the US does not sell it to them (mostly).

Pawns for the US since it allows the US projection of power to remain strong in the middle east.. ergo Israel what keeps the arab nations from becoming united and too powerful to disrupt the US (and europe) economically (oil mainly).

Pawns for their own people. Look at the so called leadership and important people of the palestinians: they are rich mother effers that live like saudi princes while their 'comrades' live in pigsty's. Its typical arab-style sheikh/imam exploitation of their populace to make themselves rich.

Wait, why the heck should anyone speak out against Israel developing housing in Israel's historical capital? Why not have some loser speak out against an apartment building being constructed in Washington DC or Italians building houses in Rome? Good grief, what won't k'vetching whiners complain about next?

Agreed, the Israelis view Jerusalem as their true capital.

I would say though the Israelis and the Palestinians in the West Bank can probably actually make peace with each other. Partially because the leadership in West Bank hates Hamas.

If you are referring to the demolition of the King David Hotel, the target was British HQ. The Brits were hated occupiers, not innocent civilians. In addition to which the Brits were warned of the explosion a half hour before it occurred, but they chose to ignore the warning.

And finally, the Stern Gang has been dead and gone for decades. Now that Israel is a state among states they no longer have to participate in the asymmetric warfare characteristic of insurrectionists.

The Israelis try (but do not always succeed) in targeting the Hamas Rocketeers. Unfornuately the Hamas Rocketeers like to set up their fire bases behind baby cribs and women's skirts. Such is warfare.

ruveyn

The decision is not a surprise really. The Israeli lobby is particularly powerful with the DC establishment.

Israel should keep it's settlements in Israel. It would be one less point of contention in the region.

It won't make a bit of difference. The Muslim enthusiasts (particularly the Palestinians) are out to destroy Israel and kill as many Jews as they can.

Being a "good guy" simply indicates to the "bad guys" just how weak one is.;

ruveyn

It would be a strong move on Israel's part towards peace if they'd rein in their rouge settlers. The Palestinians would still have to do their part towards peace too; stop attacking Israeli civilians, quit brainwashing their kids to be martyrs, etc.

Ergo this double lives because of fabricated fears.

Is it not a double standard? US never gave much consideration to destabilizing regions in regards to other abuses from other countries.

The Arabs are right now too busy with their own domestic issues. Nobody is really that eager to get in war with Israel, you know.

Fat chance. If you held your breath until all the good stuff happens you would turn blue and die.

As the late Abbe Eban once said: The Palestinian never misses a chance to miss a chance.

ruveyn

The 61st Session of the UN General Assembly condemned Israel 22 times! It did not pass a single resolution condemning the utter devastation occurring in Darfur.

The UNHRC during the same period condemned Israel 27 times. It also granted legal impunity to Hamas and expressed solidarity with Hezbollah. It also did not condemn Burma for its massive crackdown (it only expressed concern) and expressed support to Sudan for its cooperation with the UN, while it was murdering hundreds of thousands of people. As a point of reference, I believe NK was condemned twice.

Around 75% of all condemnations in the UNHRC are aimed at Israel.

http://www.unwatch.org/site/c.bdKKISNqEmG/b.3820041/
http://www.unwatch.org/site/c.bdKKISNqE ... mitism.htm

The UNHRC has condemned Israel in almost every single session.

http://rt.com/politics/un-watch-palestine-israel/

There is more to this than what was reported in the OP.

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Isn't Sudan one of the few countries where Slavery is still legal?