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28 Mar 2011, 12:34 am

I skipped over most of the bickering. I don't think that Media Matters has the resources to take on Fox News and win, and furthermore, Media Matters will become best known for their Vendetta against Fox and will quit getting taken seriously because of it.


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28 Mar 2011, 12:35 am

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By your same reasoning, Breitbart and O'Keefe and Beck are all afraid of ACORN, right? They attacked it, and criticized it, and threw a fit over it, and even went into some legally questionable tactics to attempt to discredit it. So this obviously means ACORN must be right. Same goes for Planned Parenthood, and NPR, and for that matter, George Soros and Mediamatters. There must be a reason Beck is so afraid of Soros and throwing a hissy fit about Soros. He must realize Soros is actually telling the truth.


Uh the job of the media is cover the news and do investigative journalism. You are confusing journalism (the ethical kind) with a smear campaign. Further, reporters have done stings way back in the day which were questionable from a legal standpoint. That said, Beck has not said anything like sabotaging mediamatters, ACORN, etc.

Kinda interesting that Media Matters could lose their tax exempt status over this.

It is not about correcting misinformation to MMFA anymore. Their goal now is a “War on Fox News,” not as they see it as a media organization. Instead, they are treating it as a wing of the Republican Party. The cutesy-sounding mission of Media Matters to “correct conservative misinformation” is no longer even remotely appropriate. No, MMFA is a political group with $10 million-plus in annual funding designed to wage war against Fox News, and in their eyes the GOP and conservatives as a whole.

Because of this, Media Matters should reconsider their 501(c)(3) status which is designated for religious, charitable, scientific, literary, or educational purposes. MMFA no longer meets any of these qualifiers (it’s arguable they never did) and under the banner of waging a war against Fox News and the GOP puts them in an entirely different zip code.

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28 Mar 2011, 10:28 am

Inuyasha wrote:
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By your same reasoning, Breitbart and O'Keefe and Beck are all afraid of ACORN, right? They attacked it, and criticized it, and threw a fit over it, and even went into some legally questionable tactics to attempt to discredit it. So this obviously means ACORN must be right. Same goes for Planned Parenthood, and NPR, and for that matter, George Soros and Mediamatters. There must be a reason Beck is so afraid of Soros and throwing a hissy fit about Soros. He must realize Soros is actually telling the truth.


Uh the job of the media is cover the news and do investigative journalism. You are confusing journalism (the ethical kind) with a smear campaign. Further, reporters have done stings way back in the day which were questionable from a legal standpoint. That said, Beck has not said anything like sabotaging mediamatters, ACORN, etc.

Pfffffft.... journalism shmernalism. "Sabotage" is actually a pretty good word for what O'Keefe and Breitbart have done. I think the right is just scared that David Brock wants to give them some of their own medicine. This is simply a case of the right being perfectly willing to dish it out then acting like crybabies when someone else threatens to return the favor.



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28 Mar 2011, 10:32 am

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28 Mar 2011, 10:41 am

No one would pay them any mind if Faux News stopped posturing as a legitimate news source.

This is a corporation that fought long and hard in court for its right to LIE.


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28 Mar 2011, 10:48 am

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No one would pay them any mind if Faux News stopped posturing as a legitimate news source.

This is a corporation that fought long and hard in court for its right to LIE.


Keep telling yourself that, if you want to see a news corporation lieing look at the New York Times.



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28 Mar 2011, 10:58 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
No one would pay them any mind if Faux News stopped posturing as a legitimate news source.

This is a corporation that fought long and hard in court for its right to LIE.


Keep telling yourself that, if you want to see a news corporation lieing look at the New York Times.


Cute tu quoque.


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28 Mar 2011, 11:01 am

Inuyasha wrote:
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No one would pay them any mind if Faux News stopped posturing as a legitimate news source.

This is a corporation that fought long and hard in court for its right to LIE.


Keep telling yourself that, if you want to see a news corporation lieing look at the New York Times.

Bethie was referencing a court case Fox won where the judge ruled that the FCC stance against falsifying the news was "not a law, rule or regulation" but just a policy.


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28 Mar 2011, 11:01 am

Bethie wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
No one would pay them any mind if Faux News stopped posturing as a legitimate news source.

This is a corporation that fought long and hard in court for its right to LIE.


Keep telling yourself that, if you want to see a news corporation lieing look at the New York Times.


Cute tu quoque.


Seriously, do you really want to get me started in picking apart, NY Times, the AP, Reuters, BBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc. I did a whole report on media bias and dishonesty, including how the aforementioned organizations (in this paragraph) have lied and used doctored photos.



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28 Mar 2011, 11:09 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Keep telling yourself that, if you want to see a news corporation lieing look at the New York Times. Seriously, do you really want to get me started in picking apart, NY Times, the AP, Reuters, BBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc.

Aaaand still a tu quoque....
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I did a whole report on media bias and dishonesty, including how the aforementioned organizations (in this paragraph) have lied and used doctored photos.

Oh. Well in that case:
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28 Mar 2011, 11:12 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
No one would pay them any mind if Faux News stopped posturing as a legitimate news source.

This is a corporation that fought long and hard in court for its right to LIE.


Keep telling yourself that, if you want to see a news corporation lieing look at the New York Times.


Cute tu quoque.


Seriously, do you really want to get me started in picking apart, NY Times, the AP, Reuters, BBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc. I did a whole report on media bias and dishonesty, including how the aforementioned organizations (in this paragraph) have lied and used doctored photos.
Yeah the left wing media has been the most dishonest. Both sides have their sensationalism, but you can't get more dishonest than doctoring war photos or editing out a black man who was openly carrying an AR-15 out of an Obama rally to make it look like a bunch of angry white racist gun nuts wanna vote from their rooftops (It was actually a peaceful rally so it wasn't like people were waving guns around and angrily shouting rhetoric).



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28 Mar 2011, 11:12 am

Bethie wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Keep telling yourself that, if you want to see a news corporation lieing look at the New York Times.

Aaaand still a tu quoque....


In English, and why do I get the feeling that if translated it will be something that is arguably flamebait...

Bethie wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Seriously, do you really want to get me started in picking apart, NY Times, the AP, Reuters, BBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc. I did a whole report on media bias and dishonesty, including how the aforementioned organizations (in this paragraph) have lied and used doctored photos.

Oh. Well in that case:
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I'm pointing out if you really want to see News Organizations actually lieing, when I next get a chance to dig up my old research I would be more than happy to oblige.



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28 Mar 2011, 11:14 am

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For both of you claiming to be so smart you can be incredibly dense sometimes. By reacting like they are, they are making themselves (Soros and Mediamatters) look guilty and scared.

Actually you don't have to be too smart to see that your arguments are 100% illogical. Most preschoolers would recognize it. I bet even you know that your claim is a steaming bull pie.


Sure whatever, this may not be recognizable to most people on the spectrum but when one starts screaming and carrying on about what someone says instead of simply shrugging it off, it can often be a good indication of guilt. Most people on the spectrum tend to not recognize this.

Actually people tend not to "shrug it off" when someone constantly lies and distorts the truth and appears to get away with it. To the contrary, they tend to get outraged at the one perpetuating the lies and distortions. This is a perfectly viable explanation for the left's anger at Fox News. Whether or not you believe Fox actually distorts the truth is irrelevent. The point is the left beleives that Fox News IS distorting the truth and thus they are outraged

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Saying that Soros and Mediamatters are wetting their panties because they know deep down that Fox News is "right" and they are "wrong" is nothing but a childish taunt / bluster. Oohhh, you're just mad because you're scared that I'm right. :roll: It's a bit like saying "I know you are but what am I" or calling George Soros and Mediamatters "poopy heads".

You really don't get it, Soros and mediamatters are acting like they are having a temper tantrum. It is almost like a little child screaming they aren't getting their way, or after having been caught doing something they weren't supposed to.

You may be intelligent, but you are still unable to pick up the clues as to when you're being deceived, when someone is lieing, or when someone feels backed into a corner. This is a common failing for people on the spectrum, even the smartest of us can be easily duped. I'm not saying I'm perfect at picking up on these tells, some NTs are better at lieing than others, that said I am probably better at picking up on some of these things than you are.

The people at Media Matters and George Soros are acting like they have been backed into a corner, not just angry over being made fun of.

Most socially astute people know that this style of pseudo-psychoanalysis is simply one of many childish ad-hominem tactics used to get under an opponents skin by being as brazenly patronizing as possible. The accuracy of the said psychoanalysis is irrelevant to the effectiveness of the ad-hominem attack. The only purpose is to gloat and make your opponent madder.

In any case I'm pretty sure you're more impaired in the theory-of-mind department than I am. Whether or not AS is a factor, your blind partisanship is the main contributing factor. You really aught to leave the psychoanalysis to your shrink.



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28 Mar 2011, 11:37 am

marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
For both of you claiming to be so smart you can be incredibly dense sometimes. By reacting like they are, they are making themselves (Soros and Mediamatters) look guilty and scared.

Actually you don't have to be too smart to see that your arguments are 100% illogical. Most preschoolers would recognize it. I bet even you know that your claim is a steaming bull pie.


Sure whatever, this may not be recognizable to most people on the spectrum but when one starts screaming and carrying on about what someone says instead of simply shrugging it off, it can often be a good indication of guilt. Most people on the spectrum tend to not recognize this.

Actually people tend not to "shrug it off" when someone constantly lies and distorts the truth and appears to get away with it. To the contrary, they tend to get outraged at the one perpetuating the lies and distortions. This is a perfectly viable explanation for the left's anger at Fox News. Whether or not you believe Fox actually distorts the truth is irrelevent. The point is the left beleives that Fox News IS distorting the truth and thus they are outraged


Except for the fact that Beck actually posts up his sources for other people to look at, and the sources do check out... So your explanation is just another load of garbage.

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Saying that Soros and Mediamatters are wetting their panties because they know deep down that Fox News is "right" and they are "wrong" is nothing but a childish taunt / bluster. Oohhh, you're just mad because you're scared that I'm right. :roll: It's a bit like saying "I know you are but what am I" or calling George Soros and Mediamatters "poopy heads".

You really don't get it, Soros and mediamatters are acting like they are having a temper tantrum. It is almost like a little child screaming they aren't getting their way, or after having been caught doing something they weren't supposed to.

You may be intelligent, but you are still unable to pick up the clues as to when you're being deceived, when someone is lieing, or when someone feels backed into a corner. This is a common failing for people on the spectrum, even the smartest of us can be easily duped. I'm not saying I'm perfect at picking up on these tells, some NTs are better at lieing than others, that said I am probably better at picking up on some of these things than you are.

The people at Media Matters and George Soros are acting like they have been backed into a corner, not just angry over being made fun of.

Most socially astute people know that this style of pseudo-psychoanalysis is simply one of many childish ad-hominem tactics used to get under an opponents skin by being as brazenly patronizing as possible. The accuracy of the said psychoanalysis is irrelevant to the effectiveness of the ad-hominem attack. The only purpose is to gloat and make your opponent madder.

In any case I'm pretty sure you're more impaired in the theory-of-mind department than I am. Whether or not AS is a factor, your blind partisanship is the main contributing factor. You really aught to leave the psychoanalysis to your shrink.


Sure whatever, how about you look at the language being used by mediamatters. There are some pretty good tells as to the fact they have simply become unhinged.



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28 Mar 2011, 11:53 am

Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
For both of you claiming to be so smart you can be incredibly dense sometimes. By reacting like they are, they are making themselves (Soros and Mediamatters) look guilty and scared.

Actually you don't have to be too smart to see that your arguments are 100% illogical. Most preschoolers would recognize it. I bet even you know that your claim is a steaming bull pie.


Sure whatever, this may not be recognizable to most people on the spectrum but when one starts screaming and carrying on about what someone says instead of simply shrugging it off, it can often be a good indication of guilt. Most people on the spectrum tend to not recognize this.

Actually people tend not to "shrug it off" when someone constantly lies and distorts the truth and appears to get away with it. To the contrary, they tend to get outraged at the one perpetuating the lies and distortions. This is a perfectly viable explanation for the left's anger at Fox News. Whether or not you believe Fox actually distorts the truth is irrelevent. The point is the left beleives that Fox News IS distorting the truth and thus they are outraged


Except for the fact that Beck actually posts up his sources for other people to look at, and the sources do check out... So your explanation is just another load of garbage.

Do you have the reading comprehension of a pre-schooler?

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Saying that Soros and Mediamatters are wetting their panties because they know deep down that Fox News is "right" and they are "wrong" is nothing but a childish taunt / bluster. Oohhh, you're just mad because you're scared that I'm right. :roll: It's a bit like saying "I know you are but what am I" or calling George Soros and Mediamatters "poopy heads".

You really don't get it, Soros and mediamatters are acting like they are having a temper tantrum. It is almost like a little child screaming they aren't getting their way, or after having been caught doing something they weren't supposed to.

You may be intelligent, but you are still unable to pick up the clues as to when you're being deceived, when someone is lieing, or when someone feels backed into a corner. This is a common failing for people on the spectrum, even the smartest of us can be easily duped. I'm not saying I'm perfect at picking up on these tells, some NTs are better at lieing than others, that said I am probably better at picking up on some of these things than you are.

The people at Media Matters and George Soros are acting like they have been backed into a corner, not just angry over being made fun of.

Most socially astute people know that this style of pseudo-psychoanalysis is simply one of many childish ad-hominem tactics used to get under an opponents skin by being as brazenly patronizing as possible. The accuracy of the said psychoanalysis is irrelevant to the effectiveness of the ad-hominem attack. The only purpose is to gloat and make your opponent madder.

In any case I'm pretty sure you're more impaired in the theory-of-mind department than I am. Whether or not AS is a factor, your blind partisanship is the main contributing factor. You really aught to leave the psychoanalysis to your shrink.


Sure whatever, how about you look at the language being used by mediamatters. There are some pretty good tells as to the fact they have simply become unhinged.

Whenever you say "sure whatever" I take it as a concession that I got you cornered and you have nothing more creative to use in rebuttal. Hasta la vista...