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...and piss themselves laughing once they're out of earshot.

When I have my own house, I am going to put a stack of pamplets and such on why JW is wrong, just in case they ever come by...

I have been a Jehovah Witness for a few years of My Life. I have never pushed Myself on anybody when I went door to door.

Considering that one of the fundamental tenets of Jehovah's Witnesses is anti-violence and passivity, your story is highly dubious... Unless he was paticularly bad at practicing his faith.

The reason Jehovah's Witnesses canvas door to door is because in their belief system, non-believers do not go to Heaven. So while you may find them annoying, they truly believe they are doing what is best for others... They are not dogmatic people and if you ask them nicely not to bother you they will usually oblige.

Your tone towards Christianity is very condescending, some might say that Wiccanism is essentially nothing more than a bastardised form of Paganism, palated, diluted and marketed to appeal to a weak and passive modern society.

Erm... No. Only 144,000 JW's go to heaven, according to them.

I stand corrected, though I fail to see how this is relevant to the point I was making.

You have not met the ones around where I live they just don't stop they keep talking till you close the door no matter how nice you ask them to leave as my dogs go nuts behind me



Their tone in many ways is even more condescending towards anyone that doesn't share their faith

I've never had an experience like that, I've known alot of Jehovah's Witnesses and none have ever behaved like that. I accept that kind of behavior is totally unacceptable, it is also against what Jehovah's Witnesses stand for. In England Jehovah's witnesses will avoid going to a house that has made it clear they are not welcome. If a mistake does arise and they return to the same property it is usually because they do not keep records of houses they've visited (I believe it would be a breach of the data imformation act. or some such).



Once again that has not been my experience, one of my best friends is a Jehovah's Witness, he has never been condescending to me and has always had a sense of humour and pragmatic outlook about his faith.

For the record, I live in a heavily Church Of England community, I find alot of people in my village to be pushy, arrogant social climbers, would it to be fair for me to stereotype all Anglicans like this? No, so I resist the compulsion to stereotype, as you have done.

I'm being a little nitpicky here.
For future reference: The 144,000 go to heaven, The other JWs stay on earth(I think) and the rest are annilated.

I reiterate, how is this relevant?

My point is that when Jehovah's Witnesses canvas, they are being altruistic, they are doing no more than trying to help people. If people find it irksome to answer the door and tell them no, that's their prerogative, but I personally see no harm in it.

To: Barracuda

To the question of 144,000 that is Christians from the time of Jesus to today not just Jehovah Witnesses.

The vast majority stay on Earth. In the New World there will be a Resurrection for those that have died in the past.

I'm not sure what's altruistic about trying to get someone to join a brain-washing cult. They're simply trying to recruit new members. In that sense you could say what they're doing is selfish.

It's no more "brain-washing" than the "normal behaviour" modern culture and the media espouses every day, which I frankly despise and which is alot harder to escape. I'd have thought people with Aspergers would be more sympathetic to other people who don't think "normally".

Jehovah's Witnesses gain nothing in any monetary or worldly sense from recruiting new members. For members of a "brain washing cult" I've always found them good, honest people... but then again, maybe they've cast an evil spell on me!

Just what "brain washing" occurs in modern culture and media? I'll admit there's some, but what specifically are you referring to??

If churches are'nt looking to gain monetarily, then why do the pass aroung the offering plate and have fundraisers?? They'll spend every dime you give them. Speaking of Jehova's Witnesses specifically, I've heard of a mansion they built around the turn of the century. They claimed it was for a biblical prophet wo was supposed to retun to earth. Instead the church leaders ended up living in it. How convienient. Do JW's make their books open to the publice these days?? Just curious.

Newspapers, national news etc. often presents a biased agenda. With Jehovah's Witnesses their agenda is not hidden, so how can it be considered any more devious?



There is no plate passed around but there is a box at the back of the hall, however there is no obligation to donate. All of the Jehovah's Witnesses that live locally to me work full time jobs, even the elders, unless they're retired. The elder's are not paid out of any money the church makes and any money the church makes from donations goes into publishing their Watchtower publication and printing bibles... Which are free to anyone that expresses an interest.

You've "heard" of a mansion they built. I've not heard of it, if you could provide me with a source I'd be grateful.

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Many JWs and Evangelists consider it their duty to "save" the rest of the world. Despite that I realize in some sense their hearts are in the right place, this also shows disrespect and a true lack of empathy for those who do not share their beliefs and who cannot be persuaded by a pamphlet. Many ignore this and are driven by their faith to "spread the word".

Most churches which aren't of these creeds do NOT go door to door trying to sell a belief system. I've never seen a Jew or a Muslim or a Hindu ringing my doorbell.

Despite that many of these people are polite, they remind me a bit of an encyclopedia salesman who knows damn well I have no need for a whole set of encyclopedias.

The ones who have come to my door have been polite, I'll give them that. But the best thing I can say which comes out of those little hallway meetings is that at least I can recycle their pamphlets and booklets.

Does anybody actually LIKE salesmen coming to their door and in part invading the privacy of their home even if it's only on a doorstep or in a hallway? Most don't. But many faith-peddlers ignore this little piece of information. I doubt they'd be happy if pagans came to their homes and peddled their spiritual goods. But they have a hard time imagining somebody else would feel the same about their faith.