Is Rush Limbaugh Over-Paid?
the fact that he's getting paid so much shouldn't encourage you to trust him. I really don't see the logic in trusting someones political opinions who is clearly on the payroll for someone else's interests, but by all means, maintain the fantasy
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JB- why does that pave the way for censorship? The guy is getting paid millions of dollars for nothing, essentially. Maybe if there was a salary cap for these pundits, there would be people with actual interest, and not just people looking to get rich by spewing vitriolic hot air, conservative or liberal. I have the same problem with pro athlete salaries. Its a completely unreasonable and undeserved amount of money for what many others do for pennies or for absolutely nothing (voluntarily)
If someone says that they hypothetically should use the money for other things, then that's just plain old mental masturbtion and they have a right to do that as much as they want. However if they push for seizing Limbaugh's salary and the corporate financing for his show to silence his views, then that is censorship. And claiming that Limbaugh's audience is responsible for civil unrest and that his salary should be used to compensate for that is an outright lie. It's typically protesters for left wing causes that end up getting tear gassed for their behavior.
the police overaction is proof of the crimes of protesters?
I have been at peaceful protests that have been gased.
Yep. A few years back the Quebec police were busted putting undercover people in the protests to throw rocks at the riot police in an attempt to instigate violence. This kind of thing is pretty common. Right wingers really enjoy intimidation and violence, and then claiming they're 'cracking down'.
@JB: I don't suggest taking anyone's earnings for their viewpoints, that would be wrong. I simply think pro athletes, pundits and most other non-producing careers don't deserve hundreds of millions of dollars for doing nothing. They are essentially parasites
In LA, with a mayor sympathetic to socialist causes and a very liberal police department, the protesters for conservative causes get left alone because they don't cause trouble. Protests for socialist causes usually end up getting gassed at least in a couple spots because they inevitably get stupid and cause trouble, but the cops there try to refrain from breaking up protests completely as long as they can prevent a riot. Protests for alien invader causes are a free-for-all. They could torch downtown LA and the cops and city hall would turn a blind eye to avoid any appearance of racism (and they make a point of not catching illegals), and if you got caught in an angry mob of them, you wouldn't be the first person to face charges for defending yourself.
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I'm just bored at the moment. When the when the narcissistic faction of liberals here start pontificating, rarely does anyone actually win or lose those debates.
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I'm just bored at the moment. When the when the narcissistic faction of liberals here start pontificating, rarely does anyone actually win or lose those debates.
Why is it that you refer to people you oppose as narcissists? I don't consider you a narcissist. I dislike Rush Limbaugh, yes, because I dislike all pundits, left or right. I hate anybody who is paid to provide ignorant people with opinions. And the fact that he is getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars should speak for itself
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JB- why does that pave the way for censorship? The guy is getting paid millions of dollars for nothing, essentially. Maybe if there was a salary cap for these pundits, there would be people with actual interest, and not just people looking to get rich by spewing vitriolic hot air, conservative or liberal. I have the same problem with pro athlete salaries. Its a completely unreasonable and undeserved amount of money for what many others do for pennies or for absolutely nothing (voluntarily)
If someone says that they hypothetically should use the money for other things, then that's just plain old mental masturbtion and they have a right to do that as much as they want. However if they push for seizing Limbaugh's salary and the corporate financing for his show to silence his views, then that is censorship. And claiming that Limbaugh's audience is responsible for civil unrest and that his salary should be used to compensate for that is an outright lie. It's typically protesters for left wing causes that end up getting tear gassed for their behavior.
the police overaction is proof of the crimes of protesters?
I have been at peaceful protests that have been gased.
Yep. A few years back the Quebec police were busted putting undercover people in the protests to throw rocks at the riot police in an attempt to instigate violence. This kind of thing is pretty common. Right wingers really enjoy intimidation and violence, and then claiming they're 'cracking down'.
@JB: I don't suggest taking anyone's earnings for their viewpoints, that would be wrong. I simply think pro athletes, pundits and most other non-producing careers don't deserve hundreds of millions of dollars for doing nothing. They are essentially parasites
In LA, with a mayor sympathetic to socialist causes and a very liberal police department, the protesters for conservative causes get left alone because they don't cause trouble. Protests for socialist causes usually end up getting gassed at least in a couple spots because they inevitably get stupid and cause trouble, but the cops there try to refrain from breaking up protests completely as long as they can prevent a riot. Protests for alien invader causes are a free-for-all. They could torch downtown LA and the cops and city hall would turn a blind eye to avoid any appearance of racism (and they make a point of not catching illegals), and if you got caught in an angry mob of them, you wouldn't be the first person to face charges for defending yourself.
There are occasionally riots in Montreal when the Montreal Canadiens lose, or win. The police have actually tended to crack down harder on peaceful protestors then they do on these hooligans. Why do you suppose that is? Why is it that at many protests they put agents provacateurs in (in many countries) to provide impetus for them to get violent with people just trying to show support for their conceptions of freedom and equality?
I really hate the actual people who do start problems that result in police crackdown. Often they are under the influence of alcohol, and are not really there to support the protest. They're like IRL trolls
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I'm just bored at the moment. When the when the narcissistic faction of liberals here start pontificating, rarely does anyone actually win or lose those debates.
Why is it that you refer to people you oppose as narcissists? I don't consider you a narcissist. I dislike Rush Limbaugh, yes, because I dislike all pundits, left or right. I hate anybody who is paid to provide ignorant people with opinions. And the fact that he is getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars should speak for itself
No, I didn't have you in mind. Not even half the liberals here come across narcissistic, but there are some liberals here that act narcissistic as hell.
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Hmm, my excuse is that I just can't resist explaining simple market principles to people who get indignant about them. At least this thread had an actual premise, the other Limbaugh thread was just a slow motion circle jerk that no one showed up at.
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Here are a few tidbits about his lifestyle:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/magaz ... ref=slogin
I hadn’t actually been wondering that. Very rich people tend not to stint on transportation. For example, we drove to the house from the studio, Limbaugh at the wheel, in a black Maybach 57S, which runs around $450,000 fully loaded. He had half a dozen similar rides on his estate.
“I have these cars for two reasons,” Limbaugh said. “First, they are for the use of my guests. And two, I happen to love fine automobiles.”
He also loves space. There are five homes — all of them his — on the property. The big house is 24,000 square feet. Limbaugh lives there with a cat. He’s been married three times but has no children.
Limbaugh informed me that I was the first journalist ever to enter his home. Mary Matalin, the Republican consultant, calls the place “aspirational,” which is one adjective that fits. The place, largely designed by Limbaugh himself, reflects the things and places he has seen and admired. The massive chandelier in the dining room, for example, is a replica of the one that hung in the lobby of the Plaza Hotel in New York. The gleaming cherry-wood floors are dotted with hand-woven oriental carpets. A life-size oil portrait of El Rushbo, as he often calls himself on the air, hangs on the wall of the main staircase.
Unlike many right-wing talk-show hosts, Limbaugh does not view France with hostility. On the contrary, he is a Francophile. His salon, he told me, is meant to suggest Versailles. His main guest suite, which I did not personally inspect, was designed as an exact replica of the presidential suite of the George V Hotel in Paris.
Limbaugh is especially proud of his two-story library, which is a scaled-down version of the library at the Biltmore Estate in North Carolina. Cherubs dance on the ceiling, leatherbound collections line the bookshelves and the wood-paneled walls were once “an acre of mahogany.”
A fastidious man, Limbaugh has a keen eye for domestic detail. His staff lights fragrant candles throughout the house to greet his arrival from work each day. Limbaugh led me into his private humidor, selected two La Flor Dominicana Double Ligero Chisel stogies for us to smoke and seated me at an onyx-and-marble table in the study. The room opens onto a patio, a putting green and a beach. On the table was a brochure for Limbaugh’s newest airplane, a Gulfstream G550. It cost him, he told me, $54 million.
...and the article continues, with the sources of his riches...
The average AM radio station reserves 18 to 20 minutes each hour for advertising, devotes about 5 minutes an hour to news and spends the rest of the time on other content. Limbaugh is not only paid by the stations, but his program also owns five minutes of every hour of airtime, which it can then sell to advertisers.
Some simply run their usual ads. Others use Limbaugh as their pitchman, which costs them a premium and a long-term commitment. And lately he has created a new option. At a much higher rate he will weave a product into his monologue (To a caller who said he took two showers after voting for Clinton in Operation Chaos, Limbaugh responded: “If you had followed my advice and gotten a Rinnai tankless water heater, you wouldn’t have needed to take two showers. And I’ll tell you why. . . .”)
Limbaugh is being uncharacteristically modest when he attributes his wealth to simple salesmanship. First, you have to draw — and keep — a crowd. “Rush is just an amazing radio performer,” says Ira Glass, a star of the younger generation of public-radio personalities. “Years ago, I used to listen in the car on my way to reporting gigs, and I’d notice that I disagreed with everything he was saying, yet I not only wanted to keep listening, I actually liked him. That is some chops. You can count on two hands the number of public figures in America who can pull that trick off.”
Glass compares Limbaugh to another exceptional free-form radio monologist, Howard Stern. “A lot of people dismiss them both as pandering and proselytizing and playing to the lowest common denominator, but I think that misses everything important about their shows,” he says. “They both think through their ideas in real time on the air, they both have a lot more warmth than they’re generally given credit for, they both created an entire radio aesthetic.”
Mr. Limbaugh is certainly a brilliant businessman.
One might find his views to be quite hypocritical--he regards teachers and union members as being overpaid leeches, while he lives better than Hosni Mubarak and Sadaam Hussein in their respective heydays. He receives a lot more money than the President of the USA. Is he really worth more than the President?
Also, he complains that the country is going broke, and that we cannot afford public education and health care reform. Oh, really?
He isn't producing any wealth or doing anything useful for the nation. All he does is spend 3 hours per day blabbing and insulting people on the radio, and he lives like a satrap.
He is the opiate of the masses.
@ pandabear
How he chooses to spend his money that he worked to earn, is quite frankly not for you to determine. Furthermore, the business in which he partially owns operates in the black (meaning it makes a profit). By definition, he isn't overpaid because he's the one getting the business all that money.
On the flipside, most of the people at NYTimes are overpaid because they're having problems staying in business.
Not overpaid, just proof that we're overpopulated with idiots.
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Apparently anyone who does not share your views is an idiot.
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Not always. Just when it comes to colossal morons like Limbaugh, Beck, Rand, and their ilk of simpletons who appeal to the masses with a message of simplicity, universal fixes, and a compulsion to view life in a dualistic view rather than the full scope of reality.
I know I disagree with Orwell on issues but I don't think he's an idiot for it. I disagree with you but I don't necessarily think you're an idiot...however, I do have some concerns for your ability to critically think about some things...but you've also shown very well that you're not just out and out stupid. I also very much disagree with Dox a lot of the times but I don't think he's an idiot.
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And also, I'd rather attribute these people to being idiots rather than that they willfully stay as ignorant as they are. I'd rather think that it's an inability rather than a want to not know or, worse yet, a cynical ignorance of facts in favor of class warfare.
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