What Would Happen if the Right to Bear Arms was Taken Away.

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21 Apr 2011, 7:24 pm

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Armageddon. A plague of locusts o'er the land. A rain of frogs.

Nah, in reality I think the people who would suffer the most would be the cops put in charge of rounding up the guns, that would get ugly in a hurry. On the plus side, my ability to build a gun out of raw materials would suddenly get a whole lot more valuable; I'm thinking small scale CNC production on a mid sized boat offshore... :P


I still stand by my "murders, suicides, and murder-suicides" statement. There's some SERIOUS people about their guns and they would very quickly fire at a police officer or soldier trying to confiscate their weapon or maybe kill themselves and their family.

The number of radical gun-nuts probably outnumbers the number of police and national guard willing to obey orders to do house to house searches.


That's doubtful.


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21 Apr 2011, 7:24 pm

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The number of radical gun-nuts probably outnumbers the number of police and national guard willing to obey orders to do house to house searches.

I know of one dealer who helps supply both "the family" and the police, so that seizure would sure be interesting.


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21 Apr 2011, 7:25 pm

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My normal attire would certainly get a lot less fuzzy and maul-capable...


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21 Apr 2011, 7:27 pm

I think the right to arm bears should certainly be taken away, however. Bears are not our friends, I assure you. The enemy within


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21 Apr 2011, 7:30 pm

skafather84 wrote:
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Armageddon. A plague of locusts o'er the land. A rain of frogs.

Nah, in reality I think the people who would suffer the most would be the cops put in charge of rounding up the guns, that would get ugly in a hurry. On the plus side, my ability to build a gun out of raw materials would suddenly get a whole lot more valuable; I'm thinking small scale CNC production on a mid sized boat offshore... :P


I still stand by my "murders, suicides, and murder-suicides" statement. There's some SERIOUS people about their guns and they would very quickly fire at a police officer or soldier trying to confiscate their weapon or maybe kill themselves and their family.


I've seen a guy down the road take his shot gun out of the gun rack on his truck on the way in his home. He doesn't leave home without it and doesn't stay home without it. Some people are seriously attached to their guns; like a member of their family. I don't see some people giving them up without a fight.



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21 Apr 2011, 7:31 pm

leejosepho wrote:
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The number of radical gun-nuts probably outnumbers the number of police and national guard willing to obey orders to do house to house searches.

I know of one dealer who helps supply both "the family" and the police, so that seizure would sure be interesting.

That would likely come down to who had the best element of surprise.


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21 Apr 2011, 7:35 pm

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There's some SERIOUS people about their guns and they would very quickly fire at a police officer or soldier trying to confiscate their weapon ...

You bet, and those kind of people never pull weapons out of holsters until/unless they intend to shoot ... and then they do.


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21 Apr 2011, 7:37 pm

After much protest and rioting in the streets, the law-abiding citizens would probably either emigrate or give in to the new law.

As happens in the UK, the non law-abiding citizens would effortlessly and mysteriously still obtain guns readily and carry them without a permit. Gun trade would continue; it would just go underground. The rest of the population would be unarmed and defenceless in the face of violent yobs:

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21 Apr 2011, 7:44 pm

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Thank you, that is exactly the picture in my mind that I had when I posted the topic and spelled it wrong. My thought was we don't have the right to "Bear arms". We can't have Bear arms.

I guess one would be required to bare their hidden guns if the police came to confiscate them.

So, the country would be forced to bare arms, instead of having the right to bear arms. :P



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21 Apr 2011, 7:47 pm

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My thought was we don't have the right to "Bear arms". We can't have Bear arms.

So does that mean I have to begin shaving them?


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21 Apr 2011, 7:56 pm

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Good. Better. Bear. topic

Might be more bear bellies along with those bear arms. Harder to hold/fire guns.


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21 Apr 2011, 7:59 pm

leejosepho wrote:
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My thought was we don't have the right to "Bear arms". We can't have Bear arms.

So does that mean I have to begin shaving them?


One that is forced to shave his hairy arms is also forced to bare his arms.

Actually it depends on who might take the country over and how well they understand English and the instructions from their superiors. :)

If it is aliens they might have also have the right to serve man.......on a platter. 8O



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21 Apr 2011, 8:25 pm

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Good. Better. Bear. topic

Might be more bear bellies along with those bear arms. Harder to hold/fire guns.


May also lead to more 'Bears' :P

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21 Apr 2011, 8:27 pm

aghogday wrote:
What would happen in the USA if the right to bear arms was taken away. Just a hypothetical question. In reality, I don't see it happening.

The hypothetical question assumes there is enough support for the idea for an ammendment to the Constitution to take the right away. I don't know what would precipitate the support; if you have any opinions I would be interested.

In another thread about guns, I noticed the citizens of other western countries do not have this right, and they seem to be in agreement that it is not a problem.
Their countries aren't under the same circumstances when it comes to the socioeconomic and subcultural side of things. Shootings don't happen all over the states, they mostly happen in impoverished neighbourhoods and are mostly done with illegally obtained guns. All this has nothing to do with the legality of guns. Also if there's a will there's a way.

Besides the fact that most crooks get records during their teenage years which make em ineligible to buying guns, legally buying em leaves behind a paper trail of sales transactions. Also being a registered gun owner puts you into the database. Why leave all those traces behind when you can just buy a snub .38 off the streets and throw it away or sell it after you're done with it?

Not that you think guns should be illegal, but I'm just challenging the assumptions of those who think not having the right to bear arms isn't a problem.

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Would we have revolution? When I think about it I get a picture in my mind of Charleston Heston and his statement for support for the NRA and taking his gun out of his cold dead hands. Is it that important to some Americans to bear arms.
There is always a precedence of cultural acceptance set before these laws become practical to implement so if it ever got to that point then no there would be no major revolution.



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21 Apr 2011, 9:17 pm

Vigilans wrote:
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My normal attire would certainly get a lot less fuzzy and maul-capable...


Good. Better. Bear. topic

Might be more bear bellies along with those bear arms. Harder to hold/fire guns.


May also lead to more 'Bears' :P

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Hair Apparent topic

What is Pedro Bear holding? 8O


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21 Apr 2011, 10:23 pm

The government can’t really take the right away from the citizens but it can legally (read that ILLEGALY) bar them from practicing it.
Anyhow, it would create an instant and very lucrative black market and all that comes with black marketing. It would make the war on drugs seem like childsplay.
I can’t see LE’s or National Guard participating for long because most of them with a lick of sense would resign if not out of moral principal then in fear of their lives.
The violent crime we have now would soar and in addition to that there would be an entirely new class of “criminal” born of the total ban.
The gun industry would collapse and add to the unemployment. Not just the actual firearm manufacturers but there is a huge industry for accessories, retail, and ammunition, too.
Even rumor about any kind of ban instantly triggers hording.
Just as an example, about the time that Obama took office in ’09 the gun shops were pretty much cleaned out of anything considered desirable an the ammo for them as well. Even reloading components were hard to find. One shop here was rationing primers to 200 per customer when they could even get them to stock the shelves with (typically primers are purchased in cases of 1,000 and as many cases as you can afford).
It took over a year to recover from the shortages and it spawned countless NEW gun owners.
People that I never would have thought of to become gun owners all the sudden became gun owners.
I’ve also noticed that they not only are aware that it’s their right but why it’s their right which is the most important thing.
The attitudes of new and veteran gun owners has become more, for lack of a better term, dynamic........