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31 May 2011, 12:45 am

JakobVirgil wrote:
Iran is not our issue without israel

Anyone trying to become a new nuclear power is our issue.



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31 May 2011, 6:32 am

psychohist wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Iran is not our issue without israel

Anyone trying to become a new nuclear power is our issue.

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If Iran learns how to mass produce small tactical nukes they will supply Muslim terrorist groups with the devices. The Muslim extremists are out to get the U.S. with or without Israel.

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31 May 2011, 11:48 am

@ JakobVirgil

It is unethical to insert your comments into a quote by someone else and present it as though that is what the individual said.



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31 May 2011, 3:35 pm

@inayasha thanks for catching my typo :D
@ Ruyven are they? or is it because of our middle east policy?


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31 May 2011, 6:28 pm

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@inayasha thanks for catching my typo :D
@ Ruyven are they? or is it because of our middle east policy?


It is because they consider us to satan JakobVirgil, the Iranian Government is also likely to use nukes to threaten their neighbors.



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31 May 2011, 9:10 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
@inayasha thanks for catching my typo :D
@ Ruyven are they? or is it because of our middle east policy?


Read the philosopical writings of the Wahabi. They are out to get us and all the kaffirs.

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01 Jun 2011, 11:46 pm

I suspect the Islamic world would hate us, even if we didn't support Israel. Just the matter of us being godless infidels who had once colonized them (well, the British, but we probably all look alike to them, anyway :lol:). Israel is currently our only friend in that part of the world who share our western values.
But that doesn't stop elements on the right from believing we have to support Israel in order to get God's blessing, or out of guilt for how our ancestors had once mistreated their ancestors.

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02 Jun 2011, 6:28 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
But that doesn't stop elements on the right from believing we have to support Israel in order to get God's blessing, or out of guilt for how our ancestors had once mistreated their ancestors.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


They have misquoted and misunderstood the TNKH which is not even for Christians. The TNKH (which the Heathen call the Old Testament) is for Jews and by Jews. Christians need not apply.

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02 Jun 2011, 12:06 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
But that doesn't stop elements on the right from believing we have to support Israel in order to get God's blessing, or out of guilt for how our ancestors had once mistreated their ancestors.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


They have misquoted and misunderstood the TNKH which is not even for Christians. The TNKH (which the Heathen call the Old Testament) is for Jews and by Jews. Christians need not apply.

ruveyn


Well, you aint gonna stop us from making use of the Old Testament - as flawed as it is.

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02 Jun 2011, 12:49 pm

ruveyn wrote:
The population of the U.S. is about 300,000,000 of which 6,000,000 are Jewish. Now here (at last) is The Question: What benefits do the 294,000,000 non-Jewish Americans derive from the U.S. support of Israel?

Anyone care to venture some guesses?

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Israel is more biblically important than any other nation and so my support of the United States, the nation of my birth, is secondary to my support for Israel.



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02 Jun 2011, 12:53 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
The population of the U.S. is about 300,000,000 of which 6,000,000 are Jewish. Now here (at last) is The Question: What benefits do the 294,000,000 non-Jewish Americans derive from the U.S. support of Israel?

Anyone care to venture some guesses?

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Israel is more biblically important than any other nation and so my support of the United States, the nation of my birth, is secondary to my support for Israel.


I think even ruveyn wants to beat you with a stick right now.

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02 Jun 2011, 2:22 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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I think even ruveyn wants to beat you with a stick right now.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


My enemies I can deal with. It is my gentile so-called friends that are a great hazard to me.

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02 Jun 2011, 3:14 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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I think even ruveyn wants to beat you with a stick right now.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


My enemies I can deal with. It is my gentile so-called friends that are a great hazard to me.

ruveyn


Bologna.



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02 Jun 2011, 3:47 pm

ruveyn wrote:
psychohist wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Iran is not our issue without israel

Anyone trying to become a new nuclear power is our issue.

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If Iran learns how to mass produce small tactical nukes they will supply Muslim terrorist groups with the devices. The Muslim extremists are out to get the U.S. with or without Israel.

ruveyn


They will go after anyone who doesn't think like they do, and I hope sometime that they'll tick China off with their insanity and then see what the word "conquered" means. Regardless though, Israel is a tiny strip of land which actually has freedom. An island, in a manner of speaking, of such freedom in a sea of dictatorial desert kingdoms. Even with or without my reasons being derived from the Bible, such a nation as Israel is honorable to fight for and protect. I cannot do anything more, myself, than support Israel with words, but that at the least I will do.



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03 Jun 2011, 2:33 am

pretty much all the hatred for the USA comes from our unfounded need to bully them into being on our side..propping up puppet dictators , trying to overthrow dictators we hate, backing dictators that genocide their own people..generally people in the middle east view us as a big bully that bombs the s**t out of muslim countrys that don't bow to our beliefs or way of life. Israel is just the icing on the cake. It tends to be the gasoline on the fire that is already burning at this point.


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03 Jun 2011, 6:04 am

when are you people gonna wake up and realize that the Muslims are not the enemy, it is the power elite?