Most notorious conservative?

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You seem like a fairly run of the mill conservative libertarian. Nothing particularly interesting here. You fit right in with most of the other far right extremists...

Conservative and Libertarian do not go together. Conservatives love government. Libertarians grudgingly concede some government is necessary. I am neither left nor right. I am orthogonal.

Just because I detest the Nanny State does not mean I am Far Right.

One of the most Nanny Nanny States in the world was the Third Reich.

ruveyn

If we have learned anything about being aspies it is that we ought to be wary of people attempting to label us as one thing or another. Ruveyn is a square peg, there is little to be gained by trying to smack him into a round hole.

Thanks for your replies. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on 6 subsets to this question. It is interesting that someone brought up who they think is the most notorious Conservative public figure as well. That digression brought up an interesting tangent.

1. - Most notorious Conservative contemporary politician or public figure (post. 1980)

2. - Most notorious historical Conservative or reactionary (prior to 1980)

3. - Most virulent historical racist (prior to 1980)

4. - Biggest contemporary racist public figure (post. 1980)

5. - Most obnoxious contemporary liberal

6. - Most notorious historical liberal

I would be interested to hear your opinions on these. I am curious to see who the liberals hold in special disdain, as this subforum has such an argumentative and partisan nature.

it would be cool to have kind of a "challenge cup," for the most "strident" of the conservatives, and for the liberals. I was just wondering who was regarded as the most polarizing figures about. Well, it would be fun indeed, and a fun competition.

Short of having a substantial military, conservatives don't have much use for government.
I don't know where you got that idea.....

That's what conservative say, but the reality is far different. Without government, conservatives couldn't give tax breaks to the rich, legally bust unions, invade peoples bedrooms, or roll back civil liberties in the name of national security.
If conservatives actually practiced what they preached, they would be the first to demand that the government has no right to dictate who can get married. And as for those conservatives who try to claim the civil rights movement as their own, it should be remembered that that had only been achieved through government legislation.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Hey, if you have to have it (government) might as well use it........

Yes, you have to have it. Otherwise, who's going to build roads that actually are connected to other places? Or build railroads with standardized rails? Or will keep companies from selling you products that may result in maiming and death? I could go on and on. The notion that we could get along without government is as much sheer fantasy as is the notion that rugged individuals don't need the aid of others to survive.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

The first turnpike in the U.S, the Cumberland Gap Turnpike was built with private funding.

The first railroads were built with private funding.

The first successful working airplane was built with private funding

Edison developed the light bulb and the generating system to power it with private funding.

We don't need no steeenking government.

ruveyn

most people vocalize their values in spirit. When one says they are against government, it is not total anarchy that they are evangelizing. It is for less government then the present. One must acknowledge that the government has grown in every size and scope since WWII, which wartime spending caused it to grow more then under FDR, which grew the government more then the generation before him, etc.

I would prefer we keep Bush's tax cuts while returning to the Bill Clinton years size of government. But Obama wants to keep the mammoth size of a government that Bush left him and build on it.

Edison robbed Tesla... As in the tradition of great businessmen.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I consider you to be a conservative of the libertarian variety; certainly your atheism makes you exceptional among conservatives and thus an ill fit with the religion-based social conservatives, and you have a dislike for the sorts of policies neoconservatives espouse, but your attitude and views are consistent with the minarchic libertarian right.

What makes you think I am an atheist. I believe Abraham, my ancestor was in touch with advanced extra terrestrial beings who taught him a thing or two. The God-Thing came, fiddled, diddled, violated the Prime Directive and departed, leaving us to muddle our way through. How does that make me an atheist?

ruveyn

I think ruvyen is observant
well good on em.

I laughed when I read this.
And to NeantHumain:
As a matter of fact, not only was Ayn Rand, the darling and spiritual driving force of the modern conservative movement, an atheist, she was an actual Christ-hating atheist! That's something that the loons of the values voters crowd don't want to talk about.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Only a government can manufacture money out of thin air. The so-called Conservatives have go bat sh*t crazy cranking out debt-based money. They make FDR appear to be thrifty by comparison.

Also Conservatives magnify our military effort beyond sanity. It was the Conservative and their anti-communist obsessions that got us into the Forever War. War without end. War without let up. War with no regard as to whether we can afford it or not.

That is where I got the idea....

ruveyn