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21 Jun 2011, 3:29 pm

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WTF?!?!?!?!?
Trying to hold a kangaroo court session over the internet to try someone in the court of public opinion has got to be the apex of mental masturbation. A debate is one thing but calling it a 'trial' is downright delusional.


I suspect that masturbation usually involves a mental component. However, unlike Donald Thompson, I did refrain from actual masturbation during the proceedings.

http://bubbaworld.com/2007/01/01/the-ma ... ing-judge/

And, Mr. Soros was cleared of any wrongdoing regarding Thailand's "financial collapse."



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30 Jun 2011, 10:22 am

Well, here we are: an anti-Soros dossier, circulated by the LaRouche Political Action Committee

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archi ... dosier.pdf

If you take out the references to the British Empire, you basically have the source for all of Glenn Beck's sordid material.



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30 Jun 2011, 12:02 pm

Let's start from a first principle: money = power.

In this respect Soros is no different than any other billionaire. Soros uses the resources at his disposal to propound a political agenda that he believes in. I see no sin in this--just as I see no sin in Rupert Murdoch using the resources at his disposal for similar purposes.

All of this anti-Soros ranting--the anti-Murdoch ranting, too--is exemplary of the maxim, "play the man, not the ball." It is a shorthand way of saying that if you cannot attack the substantive policy that underlies a proposition, then switch your tactics to rubbishing the man who is responsible for propounding them.

If we could stop demonizing Soros and Murdoch, we might actually be able to have rational conversation about the merits of the policies that they support.

But I suspect we will be dancing around these irrelevancies so long as it is the best weapon in Inuyasha's quiver.


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30 Jun 2011, 4:05 pm

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Shows how way left of center you are: Pelosi and Barney Frank are two I can name off the top of my head, but at this point it wouldn't surprise me if most of the Democrats in Congress are left to far-left, remember there aren't many Blue Dog Democrats left in Congress.


Seriously dude, stop calling US democrats "far left". It makes anyone that has actually been exposed to far left government (ie: me) laugh horribly at you. I mean, seriously, I can't think of any democrat congressman who isn't just barely center-right...

Your health care reform is enough example to any outsider. For a "communist ploy to destroy America" it is basically giving away monopolies to private insurance companies. Lol. When you call that stuff "far left", it is really an indication how horribly, terribly, far in the right you are.

I mean, you just called Nancy Pelosi "far left". Are you completely out of your mind? How little self-consciousness is it needed for that?


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30 Jun 2011, 4:13 pm

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Shows how way left of center you are: Pelosi and Barney Frank are two I can name off the top of my head, but at this point it wouldn't surprise me if most of the Democrats in Congress are left to far-left, remember there aren't many Blue Dog Democrats left in Congress.
Your health care reform is enough example to any outsider. For a "communist ploy to destroy America" it is basically giving away monopolies to private insurance companies. Lol. When you call that stuff "far left", it is really an indication how horribly, terribly, far in the right you are.
This is how legit socialists see it, as corporatism rather than socialism.



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01 Jul 2011, 12:18 am

Okay, I must confess. I've traveled back in time decades to serve as the puppet master of George Soros. 8) :P :twisted:


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01 Jul 2011, 12:40 am

Why does everyone seem to hate George Soros? I read his article on Wikipedia and he seemed like a good guy. He donates to mostly good causes and doesn't afraid of anything.



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01 Jul 2011, 12:50 am

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Why does everyone seem to hate George Soros? I read his article on Wikipedia and he seemed like a good guy. He donates to mostly good causes and doesn't afraid of anything.


Because he's a billionaire who has spoken against the faith of billionaires - market fundamentalism.

Also, far-right extremists like Inuyasha, Glenn Beck, and Sean Hannity hate him because he gives money to centrist politicians.


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01 Jul 2011, 1:02 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
dunbots wrote:
Why does everyone seem to hate George Soros? I read his article on Wikipedia and he seemed like a good guy. He donates to mostly good causes and doesn't afraid of anything.


Because he's a billionaire who has spoken against the faith of billionaires - market fundamentalism.

Also, far-right extremists like Inuyasha, Glenn Beck, and Sean Hannity hate him because he gives money to centrist politicians.

I see.

So the only people that don't like him are extreme-right people whose opinions don't matter anyway?



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01 Jul 2011, 6:24 am

dunbots wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
dunbots wrote:
Why does everyone seem to hate George Soros? I read his article on Wikipedia and he seemed like a good guy. He donates to mostly good causes and doesn't afraid of anything.


Because he's a billionaire who has spoken against the faith of billionaires - market fundamentalism.

Also, far-right extremists like Inuyasha, Glenn Beck, and Sean Hannity hate him because he gives money to centrist politicians.

I see.

So the only people that don't like him are extreme-right people whose opinions don't matter anyway?


Yes, but they certainly make their opinions heard, however inarticulate. They just keep repeating stupid things, like "George Soros is a puppet-master Nazi-collaborator who wants to control and destroy the world." Even after you've completely refuted their beliefs, they go on repeating themselves.



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01 Jul 2011, 7:22 am

Conservatives really do need an object (in the form of a person) upon which to project their fears and inner hatred, so as to atone for their own shortcomings and feelings of inferiority. A very rich Jewish philanthropist, who speaks with a thick Eastern-European accent, makes for the perfect target. He lived through the holocaust? So, we'll paint him to be a Nazi collaborator who was pals with Adolph Eichmann and Joseph Mengele. He helped to bring down communist governments in Eastern Europe? We'll just twist the facts around to present him as the greatest threat confronting both America and Israel.

The hatred that Conservatives project towards Mr. Soros has no basis in either fact or reason. Conservatives are simply mesmerized by the antics of their own "puppet master", who is Glenn Beck.



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01 Jul 2011, 10:30 am

pandabear wrote:
The hatred that Conservatives project towards Mr. Soros has no basis in either fact or reason. Conservatives are simply mesmerized by the antics of their own "puppet master", who is Glenn Beck.


You attribute too much to G.B. Beck is a buffoon.

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01 Jul 2011, 11:20 am

Why have there been so many threads on here about George Soros?


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01 Jul 2011, 11:22 am

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Why have there been so many threads on here about George Soros?


Inuyasha and people responding to him in counter-threads is largely the reason.


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01 Jul 2011, 11:28 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
Why have there been so many threads on here about George Soros?


Inuyasha and people responding to him in counter-threads is largely the reason.
There's been too much of these stupid threads and personal back and forths. The mods really need to step in and clean all this crap up.



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01 Jul 2011, 11:29 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
Why have there been so many threads on here about George Soros?


Inuyasha and people responding to him in counter-threads is largely the reason.


I just thought there was this sudden, strange obsession with him.


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