President Bill Clinton

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22 Jul 2011, 9:47 pm

I think that people in some parts of Europe tend to be grateful to Mr. Clinton, for helping out in Northern Ireland and in the former Yugoslavia.

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22 Jul 2011, 9:50 pm

simon_says wrote:

He was a pragmatist, not a DINO. I don't see any republicans trying to get gays into the military or push an employer-mandate health care plan. Conservatives created today's individual mandate to counter Clinton's ideas.

President Nixon was pushing for an employer-mandate health care plan.

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22 Jul 2011, 11:13 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Philologos wrote:

Carter was a nice guy without much to him.

aside from being an incompetent micro manager Jimmuh Carter is a Jew hating s.o.b.

ruveyn

I have never had the opportunity to discuss Jewish matters with him. I bow to your more direct infornation.

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23 Jul 2011, 8:41 am

Philologos wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Philologos wrote:

Carter was a nice guy without much to him.

aside from being an incompetent micro manager Jimmuh Carter is a Jew hating s.o.b.

ruveyn

I have never had the opportunity to discuss Jewish matters with him. I bow to your more direct infornation.

Read his book on so called apartheidt in Israel.

ruveyn

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23 Jul 2011, 9:10 am

ruveyn wrote:

Philologos wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Philologos wrote:

Carter was a nice guy without much to him.

aside from being an incompetent micro manager Jimmuh Carter is a Jew hating s.o.b.

ruveyn

I have never had the opportunity to discuss Jewish matters with him. I bow to your more direct infornation.

Read his book on so called apartheidt in Israel.

ruveyn

A. I got my hands full without reading politics

B. I have not time to consider reading the output of celebrities [I did not mind him as President, but he should have gone back to serious work expanding from the work of George Washington Carver

C. Just from what you say I would not need to anyway - I will have heard it on campus

D. My impression of him at the time was "nice guy", not smart. I suspect he just takes it in and passes it through the system without actually putting anything in gear.

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23 Jul 2011, 4:55 pm

Under Clinton, the rich payed their share, the economy was roaring, and we ended up with a surplus. Sounds like a pretty effective president to me.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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23 Jul 2011, 6:49 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

Under Clinton, the rich payed their share, the economy was roaring, and we ended up with a surplus. Sounds like a pretty effective president to me.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

The economy started to tank in the year 2000, even before Bush was elected. It was the age of dot.com and quasi-bogus schemes.

However Clinton's efforts in balancing the budget should not go unnoticed.

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23 Jul 2011, 9:25 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Under Clinton, the rich payed their share, the economy was roaring, and we ended up with a surplus. Sounds like a pretty effective president to me.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

While there is the possibility that my memory is faulty, I do seem to recall that the downturn under Clinton wasn't all that bad, yet. I still put the blame for the financial disaster at W. Bush's doorstep.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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23 Jul 2011, 10:53 pm

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He was a good president.

He was probably the best president since Ike Eisenhower. He actually cut government spending!

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26 Jul 2011, 12:35 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Under Clinton, the rich payed their share, the economy was roaring, and we ended up with a surplus. Sounds like a pretty effective president to me.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Stuff was unraveling before Bush took office and then Enron's ponzi scheme was uncovered just after Bush took office, then 9/11 happened. All within the first few months of Bush taking office.

I hold Clinton primarily responsible for the fiascos within our intelligence agencies that allowed 9/11 to happen.

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26 Jul 2011, 12:56 am

Inuyasha wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Under Clinton, the rich payed their share, the economy was roaring, and we ended up with a surplus. Sounds like a pretty effective president to me.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Actually, Clinton had left a file for Bush entitled, Bin Laden determined to attack America, detailing the domestic threat Al Qaeda posed to our country. Bush and his cabinet chose to ignore it. Sure, the intelligence agencies who should have been working together dropped the ball out of petty jealousies of each other. And I concede, as commander-in-chief, the final responsibility rested with Clinton; but it was Bush who could have cared less about the impending danger, rather than picking up where Clinton had left off. And as a matter of fact, it was Clinton who had tried to kill Bin Laden - a job which Bush not only failed in completing, but even stated "I don't care where he is." Bush later quietly shut down the CIA force searching for Bin Laden - and it was only restored under Obama, with very different results.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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26 Jul 2011, 1:07 am

wcoltd wrote:

MarketAndChurch wrote:

He was a good president.

He was probably the best president since Ike Eisenhower. He actually cut government spending!

HE didn't cut any spending. The circumstances did.

The Cold War was over.
The U.S. was not involved in any war.
There was no major domestic crises.
The economy was doing exceptionally well.

It had nothing to do with Clinton.

If any of those 4 were the opposite, (and it doesn't matter who is president) there wouldn't have been a surplus.

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26 Jul 2011, 1:15 am

minervx wrote:

wcoltd wrote:

MarketAndChurch wrote:

He was a good president.

He was probably the best president since Ike Eisenhower. He actually cut government spending!

Or some jackass Republican president could have destroyed the economy with tax cuts for the rich.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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26 Jul 2011, 12:53 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

minervx wrote:

wcoltd wrote:

MarketAndChurch wrote:

He was a good president.

He was probably the best president since Ike Eisenhower. He actually cut government spending!

Taxing small business owners more does not help the economy, it causes a large increase in unemployment (which is what Democrats want because they want people on welfare).
Or some jackass Republican president could have destroyed the economy with tax cuts for the rich.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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26 Jul 2011, 1:06 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

minervx wrote:

wcoltd wrote:

MarketAndChurch wrote:

He was a good president.

He was probably the best president since Ike Eisenhower. He actually cut government spending!

When did I say tax small businesses? I said, tax the rich!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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26 Jul 2011, 1:07 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

minervx wrote:

wcoltd wrote:

MarketAndChurch wrote:

He was a good president.

He was probably the best president since Ike Eisenhower. He actually cut government spending!

When did I say tax small businesses? I said, tax the rich!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Sarcasm: I didn't know small business owners were dirt poor whom live in card board boxes...

Small Business Owners are the "rich" people you are advocating hiking taxes on.

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