Christians can be decieving

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I have got to say that that line juxtaposed with your nonpsittacoid itchy trigger finger avatar hsardly enhances the peaceable side of Christianity. Could you point that thing somewhere else?

Ya have a problem with an 1874 Sharps do ya? If people want to fear me, let them. Boo!

Oh yeah, whatever it takes for someone to come to church and convert is fine. In fact the girl I was referring to in my OP has a bf who basically pulled a 180 when he started going out with her. He wasn't christian, then he meets her, becomes extremely devote christian and suddenly incorporates god/chrisitianity in every aspect of his life. And this was less then a yr. She defends him, finds nothing wrong with that because he turned to god even if his original intentions weren't right....ridiculous. Even some of her friends were wary of his intentions. But he's now an essential member of the christian group and people mostly trust him.

Thankyou!

That avatar is more than a bit rude.

I thank him for getting rid of that guy with the creepy look in his eyes- the guy someone said looked like...well you know.

But what was wrong with those nice sailing ships?

What? What guy who looked like what? Actually, with comments like RedHaranahan bragging about his thinking about getting me to change my avatar I will not be changing this avatar until I'm over my fixation on the old west, but sorry that you think it's rude.

Something a bit like this happened to me at school.

By age seventeen I had maybe ten friends. One was a girl I paired off for projects with in art classes, whom I ended up going to college with. One came along in the lower sixth because her convent school didn't go as far as A levels - she was your archetypal renegade Catholic girl, and she was a laugh.

But the rest were all evangelical Christians. At first they were nice enough to me, but as time went on they started saying things about stuff I was into - from about age twelve I'd been fascinated by what you might call 'alternative' beliefs, and of course they were all 'you will go to Hell for being into those things'. (Let's not mention the time a bunch of us were round the house of one of them with another girl who wasn't a Christian, and they drew the curtains, turned all the lights off and started trying to evangelize her, in total darkness - and told me to shut up when I tried to argue that she didn't have to believe what they were saying. Somehow, at the time, I didn't find that creepy.)

I tolerated it for much longer than I should have done. I kept seeing some of them, on and off, after I'd left school. It only really came home to me what had been going on when I met one of them for coffee some time after I'd gotten married (first time round). Like an idiot, at one point I mentioned in passing having had to go to the doctors for a Pap smear, and she seized on that and kept questioning me as to exactly when it was. I realized - since the appointment in question was before the wedding - that she was digging into whether or not the ex and I had had sex before we were married (answer: yes, actually, but it was none of her or her god's goddamn business). But the persistence was just...ick. I managed to steer her onto another subject, but the rest of the conversation was pretty stilted. As I left to get my train, she told me she and her friends would 'pray for me'. I decided then and there that I didn't want to be prayed for. Not that way.

At least two of the people in question are on Facebook. From her interests, I suspect one of them, at least, still identifies as Christian. I don't know if her views have mellowed at all, but if not, I absolutely do not want her back in my life.

(I should add that I've met tons of Christians of all denominations who've been lovely people, and one at least who's probably responsible for me still being here today. But I'm still very, very wary of anyone whose 'Christianity' consists of 'my way or the extremely hot highway'. It's the Pride March tomorrow round my neck of the woods, so I'm anticipating running into a few of them...oh joy.... )

So, are you are in favor of dragging an adolescent girl into a church, tying her down to a pew, and raping her her repeatedly until she converts? That falls under the category of "Whatever it takes...". I was right; Christians believe that any atrocity they commit "in the name of God" is not a sin, and should not be punishable under secular law.

Wait until they get married ... or she dumps him ... or he gets her pregnant ... then we'll see just how much of a "180" he has performed.

Note that "performed" is the key word here. It's all an act. It always is.