President Obama already starting his relection campain

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04 Aug 2011, 6:50 pm

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Appears that the President is following in Sarah Palin's steps and going on a campaign bus tour.

"Obama Plans Midwest Bus Tour"

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/08/03/ob ... -bus-tour/

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Taking a page from Sarah Palin’s rolling menace, President Obama will this month go on a bus tour of the midwest, which is expected to immediately “save or create” one temporary bus driving job:


Yeah, but it isn't coincident with the premiere of a film about himself.


Obama's making a film about himself? Is he renaming the White House as the Chateau Versailles also?


The working title of the film will be "The audacity of a Dope."



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04 Aug 2011, 6:52 pm

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/03/president-obama-celebrates-50th-birthday-with-re-election-campaign-fundraisers/

Does the Marixist Pig really think he will be reelected?
Marxist? Dude, are you even aware that his health care reform bill is going to result in us spending LESS taxpayer money on health care?

Of course not. You're a know-nothing imbecile. Go to Hell, teabagger troll.

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44 Percent of the U.S voters have made it clear according to Rassemum(SP) that they wouldn't even vote Obamort for dog-catcher let alone POTUS.
Doesn't mean crap. What counts in a campaign is charisma, and his opponents lack it.

Unless Giuliani were to run, of course. If Giuliani were to run, not only would he win, but I would make a point of voting for him myself.



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Actually it looks more like you don't know anything, because the numbers for Obamacare was full of accounting gimicks. Plus there are companies moving jobs to China specifically because of Obamacare.


They were moving those jobs to china regardless.


Because of unions driving jobs away. Take the United Auto Workers Union forcing the factories to pay their employees $25 an hour to start with. Auto mechanics don't even make that much and their job is much harder. Kinda hard to stay in business with that kind of extortion.



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04 Aug 2011, 6:56 pm

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No politician in the United States is ever out of campaign mode. Whether it is the unceasing need to raise more and more money or the spin that is placed on every piece of communication and the relentless chasing after media time and space, politicians are engaged in campaigning each and every waking moment. This truth makes no distinction of party or tenure. Even those who are term limited (either by statute or by voluntary declaration) are still tied to campaigning, taking in money on the rubber-chicken circuit for their political fellow travellers.

Those who think Obama is unelectable are dreaming in Technicolor (tm). It was only 3 weeks ago that Obama broke fundraising records. He has taken in more than all of the Republican contenders combined. Answering a poll is cheap and easy. Cutting a cheque to a candidate is putting ones money where one's mouth is. Given the degree to which he is able to get the dollars out, no one should believe that he is in any danger electorally.


Obamort could raise enough money that rivaled Bill Gates assets, as long as the American people are still pissed off at being unemployed, Jack Hanna of the Columbus Zoo could run up against Obozo and become president.



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04 Aug 2011, 7:30 pm

Speaking of Palin, do you remember that she never gave us any proof she is not Russian?

Palin does sound a lot like Putin. And Alaska is close to Russia, so why is Palin trying so hard not to give us proof she is not Russian?


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04 Aug 2011, 7:33 pm

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Speaking of Palin, do you remember that she never gave us any proof she is not Russian?

Palin does sound a lot like Putin. And Alaska is close to Russia, so why is Palin trying so hard not to give us proof she is not Russian?


Me so curious, Why does that matter if she is Russian descent?



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04 Aug 2011, 7:39 pm

I worry what if she was born in Russia? Then she would be part of a Putin conspiracy against us or something. Plus it wouldn't be legal that she was a vice candidate would it?


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05 Aug 2011, 12:12 pm

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Obamort could raise enough money that rivaled Bill Gates assets, as long as the American people are still pissed off at being unemployed, Jack Hanna of the Columbus Zoo could run up against Obozo and become president.


Well, I will give you 10/10 for rabid invective, but you still score 0/10 for any degree of political good sense.

There are only two things that matter in politics: money and media.

Over the next 10 months, the Republicans are going to go through an incredibly divisive exercise wherein tens of millions of dollars will be spent by candidates seeking to put themselves on the ballot. Enormous amounts of Republican money will be squandered on the internal campaign. And when one person emerges from that process with the nomination, they will have a depleted war chest with which to fight a two month campaign.

Meanwhile, the President will be tidily stuffing money into his campaign mattress. He will be able to outbuy Republicans in all the battleground states that count.

And he will be able to hang the economy aroung Boehner's neck. The debt ceiling legislation is, pretty much from first to last, out of the Republican playbook. And here we are, on day three of the new world, with a huge selloff in the market. Maintaining lower taxes for businesses and high income earners is supposed to create employment--where is that employment? Cutting government spending means cutting transfers to individuals, cutting procurement and laying off public servants--and there is nothing to replace that money.

If you are unemployed and living in Pennsylvania, Ohio or Michigan (and let's face it, there aren't many other states that count in a Presidential election), then does the Republican strategy have anything to offer that unemployed worker? Republicans are the party of free trade--free trade that has closed factories. Republicans are the party of low taxes--low taxes that have not led to new job creation. Republicans are the party of free and open markets--the free and open markets that created the financial crisis.

You might well hate Obama, but your hatred is not the same thing as sound political analysis.


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05 Aug 2011, 1:29 pm

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Because of unions driving jobs away. Take the United Auto Workers Union forcing the factories to pay their employees $25 an hour to start with.


Those arent current rates. New UAW workers make about $14 hour and GM is trying to push that to $12.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/b ... cation=rss

And unions have little to do with out sourcing today. Non-union shops go to. As do non-union sectors like IT. Even when states offer tax free status, the jobs can still go. If the math for outsourcing adds up, it adds up.

It's still only a small % of jobs. But it's a drag.



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05 Aug 2011, 1:53 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
Speaking of Palin, do you remember that she never gave us any proof she is not Russian?

Palin does sound a lot like Putin. And Alaska is close to Russia, so why is Palin trying so hard not to give us proof she is not Russian?


Hillary Rodham Clinton is russian.



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05 Aug 2011, 10:22 pm

Unfortunately, that's how U.S. politics work. Leaders are so pre-occupied with getting re-elected that they neglect the concerns of the people, both Democrats AND Republicans. Not just presidents, but congressmen as well. It's ridiculous how much the campaigns cost as well. On average, a congressional campaign will cost $2 million. Understandibly, presidential campaigns cost considerably more, on average $75 million. All they do with that money is mudsling and bash the opposing party with mindless, and largerly untrue 'facts' and slogans. After election, all they do is argue and waste time, only agreeing to raise their own salaries, which they receive anyway, because 70% of incumbents are re-elected while the rest of us are trying to make due with the economy and all. Imagine, all that money being spent on pointless campaign ads could be put to better use. Like lowering the national debt, for instance. Yet in a representative democracy such as the U.S.'s, such things are evitable, even though Madison warned us of such things in Federalist No. 10. While normally I would propose a much more radical solution to this outrageous issue, how about this: give each side a fixed, small amount and let them spew their nonsense, saving the public a great deal of money in the process. No hard or soft money. Because YOU, as the taxpayer, unwittingly are paying for all that rubbish. Personally, I don't care for either side. I hate them both. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not have my hard-earned money contributing to this pointless liberal-vs.-conservative nonsense.