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10 Sep 2011, 8:18 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

A lot more than if there wasn't any such help. And to answer your second question - definitely.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Let me ask you a hypothetical question. If you went around robbing rich people and then contributing the loot to charity would you be justified in doing so?

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10 Sep 2011, 9:13 am

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pandabear wrote:

You left off "Thy Rich Neighbor."

f**k em

So it’s selective love….
So it should be “Love Thy Neighbor, except for thy rich neighbors, conservative neighbors, etc..."

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10 Sep 2011, 9:38 am

ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

A lot more than if there wasn't any such help. And to answer your second question - definitely.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Let me ask you a hypothetical question. If you went around robbing rich people and then contributing the loot to charity would you be justified in doing so?

ruveyn

Sounds like a good plan.

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10 Sep 2011, 9:44 am

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JakobVirgil wrote:

pandabear wrote:

You left off "Thy Rich Neighbor."

f**k em

So it’s selective love….
So it should be “Love Thy Neighbor, except for thy rich neighbors, conservative neighbors, etc..."

or I was making a joke, cry baby.
Did I hurt widdle waptows big boy feewings?
why don't you go have a teaparty with your stuffed animals it that will make it all better
:lol:

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10 Sep 2011, 10:37 am

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Raptor wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

pandabear wrote:

You left off "Thy Rich Neighbor."

f**k em

So it’s selective love….
So it should be “Love Thy Neighbor, except for thy rich neighbors, conservative neighbors, etc..."

or I was making a joke, cry baby.
Did I hurt widdle waptows big boy feewings?
why don't you go have a teaparty with your stuffed animals it that will make it all better
:lol:

I don't think we have a chapter (or whatever) of the tea party around this area but I need to find out for sure.
I don’t know of anything in recent history that has caused your kind so much grief, anxiety, and apparent fear.
It would be worth joining just on that merit alone…….
Now come back with some more of that baby talk for me.
It damages you and humors me.

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10 Sep 2011, 11:17 am

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the thinking is that we may love and gladly help out our neighbor next door (that we do know), but not the one many blocks down the road struggling to make ends meet and feed their children (that we don't know). Tax redistribution helps take care of all the people we don't know, because one person cannot do a lot to help them out, but collective, government can be that vehicle to achieve that goal? Or at least that's how Lewis Lapham articulated it.

The problem is while we know the neighbor next door, we don't know the neighbor many blocks down. Instead we tune in to Rush Limbaugh who tells us the neighbor many blocks down is a lazy subhuman leech siphoning off our hard earned tax dollars. Also, we assume our tax dollars can't be helping a real person because it's being done through a faceless impersonal government bureaucracy that runs a racket to take our money away by force. It's so much easier just to pretend the person several blocks down doesn't exist, or that they will be taken care of someone else's charitable goodwill.

I'd also mention that anyone who doesn't earn into the top income tax bracket is in fact a beneficiary of "redistribution".

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10 Sep 2011, 11:19 am

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I'd also mention that anyone who doesn't earn into the top income tax bracket is in fact a beneficiary of "redistribution".

For many, whether the favored it or not.

The fact that most of the middle class is caught in the corrupt scheme of income redistribution does not justify it.

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10 Sep 2011, 11:28 am

ruveyn wrote:

marshall wrote:

I'd also mention that anyone who doesn't earn into the top income tax bracket is in fact a beneficiary of "redistribution".

For many, whether the favored it or not.

The fact that most of the middle class is caught in the corrupt scheme of income redistribution does not justify it.

ruveyn

Even if the tax rate is "flat" as a percentage of income, those earning more are still paying more into government. To be completely "fair", removing all redistribution would require a flat "fee" tax. Now what to do with those who can't afford the fee? You could throw them in prison, but that would still have to be paid for out of the taxpayers pocket. The only fair thing to do is shoot the poor sod and charge his family for the cost of the execution.

Oh, and there's no way we'd be able to fund our national defense with the lack of revenue a "fee" tax system would entail. We'd all be speaking German. Or perhaps the Chinese will take us over in the future. I might just welcome the invasion because at least the Chinese will be better educated than our impoverished third world asses.

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10 Sep 2011, 12:15 pm

Raptor wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

Raptor wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

pandabear wrote:

You left off "Thy Rich Neighbor."

f**k em

So it’s selective love….
So it should be “Love Thy Neighbor, except for thy rich neighbors, conservative neighbors, etc..."

or I was making a joke, cry baby.
Did I hurt widdle waptows big boy feewings?
why don't you go have a teaparty with your stuffed animals it that will make it all better
:lol:

awight waptow what exactly is my kind?
am I a democrat?
am I a Liberal?
My only take on the tea party is that they are part the republican base
and a tempest in a teapot.
I think they are funny because like you they pretend to be conservative but live off of the teat of big government.
pretending to be tough men but in reality a bunch of bawling sissies.
always getting offended and butthurt about non-events like not being invited to ecumenical parties
or when other people use violent rhetoric.
So as long as Your Kind act like little babies posting ponderous whiny

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"So it’s sewective Wove….
So it shouwd be “Wove Thy Neighbow, except fow thy wich neighbows, consewvative neighbows, etc..."

Act like a whiny brat get treated like a whiny brat.

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10 Sep 2011, 2:47 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

A lot more than if there wasn't any such help. And to answer your second question - definitely.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Let me ask you a hypothetical question. If you went around robbing rich people and then contributing the loot to charity would you be justified in doing so?

ruveyn

Did wonders for the Robin Hood myth.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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10 Sep 2011, 2:58 pm

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Love thy neighbor

i have seen my neighbor about 5 times.
he seems like a derelict. his silver colored hair (as i would imagine it to be if it was clean) looks like the color of brass because his hair is nicotine stained.

how could i be attracted to him? what is your definition of "love"?. actually, that was a rhetorical question, so spare me the chore of having to read your "reply".

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10 Sep 2011, 3:04 pm

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Love thy neighbor

Even unwashed derelicts need love.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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10 Sep 2011, 3:21 pm

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b9 wrote:

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Love thy neighbor

Even unwashed derelicts need love.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

yes i know. i am sorry. i do sometimes wonder about him.
i never thought he was worthless.
everyone has an equal right to live, and that includes all life forms down to bacteria. i will never question that because i "know" it to be true.

i do not like to be in the vicinity of some people because they grate on my senses. that is neither their or my fault.
they stink in some way, and that is their problem, and i can not tolerate them in my way , and that is my problem.

geee whiz. sleep is such an easy alternative to thinking when one is getting stuck.

good night all. whatever your gripes, and whatever your tribulations, let the spent embers of your unfulfilled hopes fall harmlessly within the outer vicinity of your concerns and outside of my perimeter of concern.

i could not care less, and i find it to be a comfortable position.

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10 Sep 2011, 3:44 pm

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ruveyn wrote:

Let me ask you a hypothetical question. If you went around robbing rich people and then contributing the loot to charity would you be justified in doing so?

ruveyn

Did wonders for the Robin Hood myth.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

It made a story popular. That's not a moral justification by a long shot.

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10 Sep 2011, 4:02 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Let me ask you a hypothetical question. If you went around robbing rich people and then contributing the loot to charity would you be justified in doing so?

ruveyn

Did wonders for the Robin Hood myth.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

It made a story popular. That's not a moral justification by a long shot.

Maybe not, but it makes the stepped on have-nots feel a lot better.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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10 Sep 2011, 7:24 pm

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My only take on the tea party is that they are part the republican base
and a tempest in a teapot.

Oh it’s more than that. The fact is that through all the downplaying with baby talk (failed attempt to belittle) that the tea party ideology scares you. I do not know why else the left would get it's collective panties in such a knot over it.

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I think they are funny because like you they pretend to be conservative but live off of the teat of big government pretending to be tough men but in reality a bunch of bawling sissies.

Are you saying that the typical tea partier (and me) are welfare recipients???

As for the bawling sissy thing I guess I can chalk that up to another pathetic attempt to grasp at something.
On the average, a conservative’s mindset and capabilities are much more inclined and able to survive hardships and adversity and learn from them.
Honesty, of the conservatives that I have ever know I’d say that about 70+% of them can take care of themselves when they have to. With the liberals I’ve known it’s more like 40% at best. They just do not have the same mindset for it. So much for the right being bawling sissies……..

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always getting offended and butthurt about non-events like not being invited to ecumenical parties
or when other people use violent rhetoric.
So as long as Your Kind act like little babies posting ponderous whiny

I’ve always noticed that liberals tend to live in glass houses and throw a lot of stones.

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