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Who will you be voting for this election?
Obama 33%  33%  [ 18 ]
A Republican candidate 17%  17%  [ 9 ]
Someone else (please specify) 13%  13%  [ 7 ]
No one 19%  19%  [ 10 ]
Not sure yet 19%  19%  [ 10 ]
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15 Nov 2011, 11:39 pm

Unless someone enters the race that could actually win it, which I doubt, the choice is you are either voting for Obama or voting to kick him out of office by voting for the Republican.

If you vote third party this round, you can basically say you're voting for Obama.

Fact of the matter is Obama has been so destructive to this country, he's made Jimmy Carter look like a good President.



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15 Nov 2011, 11:43 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Fact of the matter is Obama has been so destructive to this country, he's made Jimmy Carter look like a good President.
His spending has been surreal but...saying he's passed Carter is going to the ultimate. I still wouldn't say that YET.


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15 Nov 2011, 11:54 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Fact of the matter is Obama has been so destructive to this country, he's made Jimmy Carter look like a good President.
His spending has been surreal but...saying he's passed Carter is going to the ultimate. I still wouldn't say that YET.


He's already done the America malaise (sp?) speeches.



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16 Nov 2011, 12:15 am

I'm not voting for any of them......not like the presidential elections make that much of a difference anyways the president sure as hell isn't the one running things. So yeah there's no point.



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16 Nov 2011, 12:19 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Fact of the matter is Obama has been so destructive to this country, he's made Jimmy Carter look like a good President.
His spending has been surreal but...saying he's passed Carter is going to the ultimate. I still wouldn't say that YET.


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16 Nov 2011, 12:55 am

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I'm not voting for any of them......not like the presidential elections make that much of a difference anyways the president sure as hell isn't the one running things. So yeah there's no point.


He was running things with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid in 2009 and 2010.

He still controls the executive branch and Harry Reid and the Democrats still have control of the Senate.

Democrats are also entirely to blame for the fact we haven't had a budget since Bush's last one ended for fiscal year 2009.



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16 Nov 2011, 12:57 am

Inuyasha wrote:
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I'm not voting for any of them......not like the presidential elections make that much of a difference anyways the president sure as hell isn't the one running things. So yeah there's no point.


He was running things with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid in 2009 and 2010.

He still controls the executive branch and Harry Reid and the Democrats still have control of the Senate.

Democrats are also entirely to blame for the fact we haven't had a budget since Bush's last one ended for fiscal year 2009.


right, I'm sure a record number of filibusters have nothing to do with that.



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16 Nov 2011, 1:00 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Unless someone enters the race that could actually win it, which I doubt, the choice is you are either voting for Obama or voting to kick him out of office by voting for the Republican.

If you vote third party this round, you can basically say you're voting for Obama.

Fact of the matter is Obama has been so destructive to this country, he's made Jimmy Carter look like a good President.
If republican strategists are as stupid as Inuyasha thinks they are, they will rely on this strategy VOTE FOR US or else Obama stays, instead of offering real alternatives. The independents are not freaking stupid. They will not vote for anything that is not Obama. If you don't provide a decent alternative, they'll rather stay with the known evil.


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16 Nov 2011, 1:03 am

Vexcalibur wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Unless someone enters the race that could actually win it, which I doubt, the choice is you are either voting for Obama or voting to kick him out of office by voting for the Republican.

If you vote third party this round, you can basically say you're voting for Obama.

Fact of the matter is Obama has been so destructive to this country, he's made Jimmy Carter look like a good President.
If republican strategists are as stupid as Inuyasha thinks they are, they will rely on this strategy VOTE FOR US or else Obama stays, instead of offering real alternatives. The independents are not freaking stupid. They will not vote for anything that is not Obama. If you don't provide a decent alternative, they'll rather stay with the known evil.


They should know that, since it's how George W got re-elected.



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16 Nov 2011, 1:07 am

Inuyasha wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Fact of the matter is Obama has been so destructive to this country, he's made Jimmy Carter look like a good President.
His spending has been surreal but...saying he's passed Carter is going to the ultimate. I still wouldn't say that YET.


He's already done the America malaise (sp?) speeches.


Say what you will about Carter's original "malaise speech" (which is a misnomer, of course, because he never actually used that word in the speech itself). Was it depressing? Perhaps. Did it ruin Carter's bid for re-election against Ronald "Morning in America" Reagan? Quite possibly. But you cannot fault Carter for the observations he made about America becoming swept up in rampant monetary and material fetishism, or the tenuous balance between the environment and our energy policy, or Washington, D.C., becoming a metaphorical island, because those things were true in 1979, and they're even truer now. That speech was not supposed to make anyone feel warm and fuzzy. It was a serious warning about problems Carter foresaw-- problems which have contributed to the dire state of the country as it exists today.


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16 Nov 2011, 1:12 am

Chevand wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Fact of the matter is Obama has been so destructive to this country, he's made Jimmy Carter look like a good President.
His spending has been surreal but...saying he's passed Carter is going to the ultimate. I still wouldn't say that YET.


He's already done the America malaise (sp?) speeches.


Say what you will about Carter's original "malaise speech" (which is a misnomer, of course, because he never actually used that word in the speech itself). Was it depressing? Perhaps. Did it ruin Carter's bid for re-election against Ronald "Morning in America" Reagan? Quite possibly. But you cannot fault Carter for the observations he made about America becoming swept up in rampant monetary and material fetishism, or the tenuous balance between the environment and our energy policy, or Washington, D.C., becoming a metaphorical island, because those things were true in 1979, and they're even truer now. That speech was not supposed to make anyone feel warm and fuzzy. It was a serious warning about problems Carter foresaw-- problems which have contributed to the dire state of the country as it exists today.


Why do you hate america so much?!



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16 Nov 2011, 1:13 am

blauSamstag wrote:
Chevand wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Fact of the matter is Obama has been so destructive to this country, he's made Jimmy Carter look like a good President.
His spending has been surreal but...saying he's passed Carter is going to the ultimate. I still wouldn't say that YET.


He's already done the America malaise (sp?) speeches.


Say what you will about Carter's original "malaise speech" (which is a misnomer, of course, because he never actually used that word in the speech itself). Was it depressing? Perhaps. Did it ruin Carter's bid for re-election against Ronald "Morning in America" Reagan? Quite possibly. But you cannot fault Carter for the observations he made about America becoming swept up in rampant monetary and material fetishism, or the tenuous balance between the environment and our energy policy, or Washington, D.C., becoming a metaphorical island, because those things were true in 1979, and they're even truer now. That speech was not supposed to make anyone feel warm and fuzzy. It was a serious warning about problems Carter foresaw-- problems which have contributed to the dire state of the country as it exists today.


Why do you hate america so much?!


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16 Nov 2011, 1:19 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
I'm not voting for any of them......not like the presidential elections make that much of a difference anyways the president sure as hell isn't the one running things. So yeah there's no point.


He was running things with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid in 2009 and 2010.

He still controls the executive branch and Harry Reid and the Democrats still have control of the Senate.

Democrats are also entirely to blame for the fact we haven't had a budget since Bush's last one ended for fiscal year 2009.


Sorry I'm beyond the democrat vs. republican crap.....they're practically the same freaking thing. Its not as though the democrats and republicans really oppose each other so much as the wanna put on a show for the elections so it seems real and people keep believing the illusion that somehow things will get better if we continue voting for a republican president, getting fed up with him and then voting for a democrat, getting fed up with him but probably voting for him again because he's the lesser of the evils.

Things go a lot deeper then that petty democrats vs. republicans crap.

Still not voting for any of them........and I agree to disagree with what you said.



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16 Nov 2011, 3:09 am

Obama has a few massive hurdles ahead of him that will be hard to explain away. He could mitigate 2 of them but he won't.


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16 Nov 2011, 3:14 am

If not Cain, then no one.

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16 Nov 2011, 4:58 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Since most people here are liberals, they would probably vote for Obama.
That's untrue. There's a hard core of neocons, one of which on another thread said I was making a mad rant for doing exactly the same thing as I do with everyone: debate with them.