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The_Face_of_Boo
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04 Dec 2011, 6:00 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ci3plZ9sg&feature=share[/youtube]

Lol that's from an interview on the Al-Arabiya tv.

she asked him: "I came unveiled, but I've noticed that you never looked at me all the time, why?"

Him: "I am not appointed here to veil you, I am only appointed by the Sharia to not look at you".



But once he's appointed.....?? Hmmmmm.



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04 Dec 2011, 6:18 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Only two colors: black and green.


We get them in red, blue and yellow. Oh, and of course the blue-and-yellow combination in Brussels but we're working on that.



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04 Dec 2011, 6:19 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
But once he's appointed.....?? Hmmmmm.


Indeed.

Some people - who know who they are - in the UK really are closing their ears when Sharia is discussed. I would wonder why but I think we all know the answer by now.



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04 Dec 2011, 6:26 pm

Tequila wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
But once he's appointed.....?? Hmmmmm.


Indeed.

Some people - who know who they are - in the UK really are closing their ears when Sharia is discussed. I would wonder why but I think we all know the answer by now.


To be fair he literally said more like:

"I am not ordered to veil you, but I am just ordered by the Sharia to disregard and not look at you. I wouldn't even consider it as a sign of respect"

Btw, the reporter is a Lebanese Christian and he knows that, his answer would be different if she was Muslim.



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04 Dec 2011, 6:27 pm

I had to read your sentence several times to understand what you meant. Now I've got it and I understand perfectly. Such phrases gives me the chills.

What would the response be if she was Muslim? Or should I not ask such a silly question?



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04 Dec 2011, 6:36 pm

Silly question.

Next.



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04 Dec 2011, 6:45 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Silly question.

Next.


Understood.



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04 Dec 2011, 10:09 pm

OH NOES! A COUNTRY WE DO NOT LIVE IN IS GETTING A GOMMINT WE DON'T LIKE

f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k


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05 Dec 2011, 3:12 am

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Well, I guess they'll get to see if tyranny of the majority is any better than plain old tyranny.


It isn't even the majority, it was just the fact that the extremists were the only organized groups.

Didn't someone whom got mocked here for it predict this would happen...

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I thought you guys said that what this guy was saying, couldn't possibly happen.



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05 Dec 2011, 3:28 am

For crying out loud, you've all been snorting Faux. It doesn't f*****g matter who won the elections; the military still controls everything.

Quote:
...the only real concession made by SCAF was to move the presidential elections forward to 2012. Considering the presidential elections were supposed to take place in September of this year before being postponed to July 2012 and then January 2013, it is entirely possible that this will prove to be an empty promise. “SCAF’s sole intention while they are in a position of power is to extract as many constitutional concessions for the military elite as it possibly can,” Abi Ali said. “Everything else is a smokescreen.” Tantawi’s apparent refusal to change SCAF’s constitutional amendments means that Egypt’s military budget is still outside the future government’s control and that SCAF still has the power to elect 80 of the 100 members on the assembly which will rewrite Egypt’s constitution. With these supra-constitutional principles in place, SCAF’s political power will be maintained after the forthcoming parliamentary and presidential elections.

source:
http://thinkafricapress.com/egypt/elect ... l-violence



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05 Dec 2011, 3:32 am

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For crying out loud, you've all been snorting Faux. It doesn't f***ing matter who won the elections; the military still controls everything.

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...the only real concession made by SCAF was to move the presidential elections forward to 2012. Considering the presidential elections were supposed to take place in September of this year before being postponed to July 2012 and then January 2013, it is entirely possible that this will prove to be an empty promise. “SCAF’s sole intention while they are in a position of power is to extract as many constitutional concessions for the military elite as it possibly can,” Abi Ali said. “Everything else is a smokescreen.” Tantawi’s apparent refusal to change SCAF’s constitutional amendments means that Egypt’s military budget is still outside the future government’s control and that SCAF still has the power to elect 80 of the 100 members on the assembly which will rewrite Egypt’s constitution. With these supra-constitutional principles in place, SCAF’s political power will be maintained after the forthcoming parliamentary and presidential elections.

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http://thinkafricapress.com/egypt/elect ... l-violence


The military's hold is rather tenious at the moment.

Get over your irrational hatred of Glenn Beck and Fox News already.



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05 Dec 2011, 3:52 am

I think you mean, "tenuous."
If it is, it's not b/c of the scary Muslim Brotherhood or the recent elections; it's because the majority of the Egyptian people are normal, good people who want a working democracy that represents them, and an end to military tribunals for civilians.

Also, you need to watch that who/whom thing.



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05 Dec 2011, 4:36 am

Here is some good reporting on the situation:

http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/ ... eter-.html

I personally don't think the 'everything will be fine when they vote' line being taken by the left, who if you might remember, sort of supported this revolution really works. There are some serious things in Egypt that are fundamentally worse since the overthrow of Mubarak. The Muslim Brotherhood has moved from the fringes of the political discourse to a point where they will essentially have a veto on what happens at the national level; however you spin it, this is a bad thing. The Christian population is under siege and no one in the establishment (both here and there) really has any desire to do anything about it. The long standing peace between Egypt and Israel is on much shakier ground than it was.

Now you might argue that things are better in Egypt, they might, but they are not yet. LKL points out that the majority of the people of Egypt are normal, good people who want a working democracy. Sectarianism emerged in post-Saddam Iraq and it is emerging in Egypt today, this is a read danger one that will actually be amplified by democracy because the minorities will have no recourse but to emigrate (like the Christians have been forced to do in Iraq) otherwise they face disenfranchisement. Sure this may not end up being the case, but who wants to see dramatically majoritarian state in Egypt, which is a real risk. The idea that elections will fix this problem, a claim often made recently was not palatable after the Iraq War invasion but for some reason lefties everywhere seem to be embracing it.


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05 Dec 2011, 10:30 am

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The long standing peace between Egypt and Israel is on much shakier ground than it was.


Now I understand why Israelis have advised me not to travel through Taba.



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05 Dec 2011, 4:46 pm

91 wrote:
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2011/11/special-report-the-overthrow-of-egypts-despotic-ruler-was-hailed-a-success-but-nine-months-on-peter-.html

What a distasteful load of hyperbole. slums 'waste fertile Nile farmland'? How is that different from capitalist building anywhere, from the Thames in England to the Willamette in Oregon? Is a red brick tenement less valuable than a strip mall?

Hard to find a point in all that froth.



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05 Dec 2011, 7:05 pm

Interesting article on how the PJD (the political wing of the Muslim Brotherhood) in Morocco became the loyal and maybe even moderate opposition*.
http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/ ... e_minister

Even J-Post is saying mostly good things about them
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists ... ?id=248136

Morocco is the image of stability in the Middle East; far from free but far from crazy.

I am less confident that Egypt will be able to navigate the same path:
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... _christian

*(they did oppose a freedom of conscience clause in the constitution)


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