What online Jihadists and wrongplanet have in common

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12 Jan 2012, 10:49 pm

Wait, they have games, rankings and badges? I'm on the wrong site...



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12 Jan 2012, 11:52 pm

Achievement unlocked: Jihad!


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13 Jan 2012, 1:04 am

scubasteve wrote:
Wait, they have games, rankings and badges? I'm on the wrong site...


Sounds like total.fark.com.

as for 72 virgins, i can't imagine looking forward to an eternity with 72 chicks crying in the bathroom and trying to call their mothers.



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13 Jan 2012, 1:22 am

Vigilans wrote:
Achievement unlocked: Jihad!


Oh wow. That one is locked for me. You got the Islam DLC?



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13 Jan 2012, 6:22 am

I don't understand why this warrants a news article, I'd have thought it'd be plainly obvious.

Do people get paid to use Facebook, or to tweet, or to post in most online forums? No, of course not. So there is obviously a psychological motivation for people to use these services, regardless of what the focus of the community happens to be.

I'd also like to point out that admins of forums do often get paid from ads. How significant the payment is obviously depends on the popularity of the site.



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13 Jan 2012, 1:55 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
I don't understand why this warrants a news article, I'd have thought it'd be plainly obvious.

Do people get paid to use Facebook, or to tweet, or to post in most online forums? No, of course not. So there is obviously a psychological motivation for people to use these services, regardless of what the focus of the community happens to be.

I'd also like to point out that admins of forums do often get paid from ads. How significant the payment is obviously depends on the popularity of the site.


You kind of contradicted yourself there. I think there's more than just Admins getting paid.

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13 Jan 2012, 4:14 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/01/a_theory_of_onl.html

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The counterterrorism community has spent years trying to determine why so many people are engaged in online jihadi communities in such a meaningful way. After all, the life of an online administrator for a hard-line Islamist forum is not as exciting as one might expect. You don't get paid, and you spend most of your time posting links and videos, commenting on other people's links and videos, and then commenting on other people's comments. So why do people like Abumubarak spend weeks and months and years of their time doing it? Explanations from scholars have ranged from the inherently compulsive and violent quality of Islam to the psychology of terrorists.

But no one seems to have noticed that the fervor of online jihadists is actually quite similar to the fervor of any other online group. The online world of Islamic extremists, like all the other worlds of the Internet, operates on a subtly psychological level that does a brilliant job at keeping people like Abumubarak clicking and posting away -- and amassing all the rankings, scores, badges, and levels to prove it. Like virtually every other popular online social space, the social space of online jihadists has become "gamified," a term used to describe game-like attributes applied to non-game activities. It turns out that what drives online jihadists is pretty much exactly what drives Internet trolls, airline ticket consumers, and World of Warcraft players: competition.


Darn.


Duuuuuhhhhhhhhh..........!

Actually Jihadist websites probably prevent more terrorism than they instigate by encouraging Jihadis to waste time.



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13 Jan 2012, 10:51 pm

The only thing Jihadists and Aspies have in common in an online community is community. Even strident Atheists spend time staring into the light (of their flat screens) reaching out to each other. It's a very human thing to do, whether you're an extreme terrorist or otherwise.



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14 Jan 2012, 11:10 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
blunnet wrote:
"What online Jihadists and wrongplanet have in common?"
Asperger's?

Interesting idea actually..... Needs more research, at least whether a correlation exists.


Reminds me of this: http://www.collegehumor.com/video/65833 ... -are-nerds


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14 Jan 2012, 11:12 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
I don't understand why this warrants a news article, I'd have thought it'd be plainly obvious.

Do people get paid to use Facebook, or to tweet, or to post in most online forums? No, of course not. So there is obviously a psychological motivation for people to use these services, regardless of what the focus of the community happens to be.

I'd also like to point out that admins of forums do often get paid from ads. How significant the payment is obviously depends on the popularity of the site.
Obvious things require research to be confirmed or debunked.

Much of what seemed obvious to Aristotle turned out to be wrong. And that's just the beginning of the story.


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