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24 Mar 2012, 5:21 pm

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Anti-Hebrew would have done the trick as well as being more right on.


Marr's error. but the anti-semites never tire of obscuring the meaning of Marr's term whenever it suits them.

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24 Mar 2012, 6:31 pm

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Wasn't Osama a Semite himself?


The term "anti-semite" was invented by German philosopher Willhelm Marr -specifically- to mean one who hates Jews for being Jews. The term is a euphemism and never referred to semites in general.

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Yeah...I hate that term and its sad that of course some one German had to create it as if we dont have to deal with people bringing up ww2 and throwing it in our faces any chance they get. Lets not for get ww1 which wasnt really Germany fault but was forced to pay for the war.


Yes, Germany was left with sole responsibility of a war which they had been dragged into, leaving them humiliated, and especially broke when the depression hit. Looking for someone to blame, a charismatic leader - Adolf Hitler - harnessed the justifiable rage, German pride and nationalism, but also unlocked the festering Antisemitism deeply rooted within German society. Appealing to blind emotion, Hitler played up on notions that the Jews had betrayed the Fatherland in the last war, which unfortunately most Germans had bought into. Combine that with the fact that Hitler had turned Germany from an economic wreck back into an industrial powerhouse in a few years, the German people were ready to follow him to hell. And the Jews unfortunately were the recipients of the irrational hate Hitler had unleashed.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


It was a classic blame game turned into mass murdering hatred aimed at the Jewish people.



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24 Mar 2012, 6:40 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Anti-Hebrew would have done the trick as well as being more right on.


Marr's error. but the anti-semites never tire of obscuring the meaning of Marr's term whenever it suits them.

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I can't believe people around him accepted it, why didn't they have the sense to say that was stupid?



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24 Mar 2012, 6:41 pm

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Anti-Hebrew would have done the trick as well as being more right on.


Marr's error. but the anti-semites never tire of obscuring the meaning of Marr's term whenever it suits them.

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I can't believe people around him accepted it, why didn't they have the sense to say that was stupid?


Because the blind was following the blind it happens nothing we can do about it.



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24 Mar 2012, 6:44 pm

Joker wrote:
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ruveyn wrote:
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Anti-Hebrew would have done the trick as well as being more right on.


Marr's error. but the anti-semites never tire of obscuring the meaning of Marr's term whenever it suits them.

ruveyn


I can't believe people around him accepted it, why didn't they have the sense to say that was stupid?


Because the blind was following the blind it happens nothing we can do about it.


I'll do something about it. I'm never using that term again.



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24 Mar 2012, 7:27 pm

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Anti-Hebrew would have done the trick as well as being more right on.


Marr's error. but the anti-semites never tire of obscuring the meaning of Marr's term whenever it suits them.

ruveyn


I can't believe people around him accepted it, why didn't they have the sense to say that was stupid?


Because the blind was following the blind it happens nothing we can do about it.


I'll do something about it. I'm never using that term again.


Thats fine but it doenst mean other people wont use that term.



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24 Mar 2012, 8:07 pm

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I can't believe people around him accepted it, why didn't they have the sense to say that was stupid?


At the time Marr coined his term is was customary for Europeans to think that the term "semite" pertained to Jews. It was not construed in its more general sense. Which is why Marr invented that term.

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24 Mar 2012, 8:11 pm

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I can't believe people around him accepted it, why didn't they have the sense to say that was stupid?


At the time Marr coined his term is was customary for Europeans to think that the term "semite" pertained to Jews. It was not construed in its more general sense. Which is why Marr invented that term.

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Europeans also have a history of being anti-semites didnt surprise me that it would be the germans that would end up starting the holocaust Adolf Hitler put the blame on them and needed a scapegoat for some reason the Jews have always tooken the blame for things they didnt even do just dont understand why really.



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24 Mar 2012, 8:18 pm

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Anti-Hebrew would have done the trick as well as being more right on.


Hebrew is a language, not a cultural group. People incorrectly refer to Jews as "Hebrews" sometimes, and it is offensive.

You don't call the Romans Latins, you don't call Africans Swahilis, you don't call the Chinese Mandarin or Cantonese.



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24 Mar 2012, 8:27 pm

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snapcap wrote:
Anti-Hebrew would have done the trick as well as being more right on.


Hebrew is a language, not a cultural group. People incorrectly refer to Jews as "Hebrews" sometimes, and it is offensive.

You don't call the Romans Latins, you don't call Africans Swahilis, you don't call the Chinese Mandarin or Cantonese.


And you dont call germans Prussians.



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24 Mar 2012, 8:29 pm

Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
snapcap wrote:

I can't believe people around him accepted it, why didn't they have the sense to say that was stupid?


At the time Marr coined his term is was customary for Europeans to think that the term "semite" pertained to Jews. It was not construed in its more general sense. Which is why Marr invented that term.

ruveyn


Europeans also have a history of being anti-semites didnt surprise me that it would be the germans that would end up starting the holocaust Adolf Hitler put the blame on them and needed a scapegoat for some reason the Jews have always tooken the blame for things they didnt even do just dont understand why really.


Judaism is the Asperger's of religion. =P

-Closed-culture.
-Ritualistic, but always with a purpose [circumcision prevented a potentially fatal childhood infection, kosher laws kept people from getting food poisoning and made the meat taste better, Bar Mitzvahs happen when boys hit puberty and gives them something to study and thus stay out of everyone's hair for a few months].
-Organized, very mathematical, scientific, or objective in the way rituals are completed as well as crimes judged [Was he killed? Was it the intent of this person? "Appropriate" retribution.]
-Made up their own language that no one else used, or would use, ever.
-Cared about stuff that no one cared about at the time.
-Too passive to outright say, "f**k you too."
-Too aggressive to renounce their beliefs for no logical reason.
-Awkward or inappropriate in dealings with other religions.
-Jews love to argue. A lot. Even with god. "Two Jews, three opinions." This is why the Talmud exists.
-Did their rituals in private when they were told not to do it. [I know I stim in private when people tell me to stop stimming. :P]

This is what I got from my many years of being Jewish.



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24 Mar 2012, 8:29 pm

LennytheWicked wrote:
snapcap wrote:
Anti-Hebrew would have done the trick as well as being more right on.


Hebrew is a language, not a cultural group. People incorrectly refer to Jews as "Hebrews" sometimes, and it is offensive.

You don't call the Romans Latins, you don't call Africans Swahilis, you don't call the Chinese Mandarin or Cantonese.


What is the preferred term for the group?



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24 Mar 2012, 8:33 pm

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LennytheWicked wrote:
snapcap wrote:
Anti-Hebrew would have done the trick as well as being more right on.


Hebrew is a language, not a cultural group. People incorrectly refer to Jews as "Hebrews" sometimes, and it is offensive.

You don't call the Romans Latins, you don't call Africans Swahilis, you don't call the Chinese Mandarin or Cantonese.


What is the preferred term for the group?


We prefer to be called German as a group.



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24 Mar 2012, 8:33 pm

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LennytheWicked wrote:
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Anti-Hebrew would have done the trick as well as being more right on.


Hebrew is a language, not a cultural group. People incorrectly refer to Jews as "Hebrews" sometimes, and it is offensive.

You don't call the Romans Latins, you don't call Africans Swahilis, you don't call the Chinese Mandarin or Cantonese.


What is the preferred term for the group?


Actually the Torah calls us Yhudi, because there's no J sound in Hebrew. For example, Jacob is Yakov in Hebrew. The Romans came, with their fancy schmancy J-sound, and called them "Jud" instead, which mutated into "Jew." Similarly, "Jesus" is a mutation of the Hebrew version of Joshua, which is something like Yeshuhasha or something long and intimidating like that.

It's probably better to just say "Jew." We come in all shapes and sizes and nationalities, it would seem.



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24 Mar 2012, 8:38 pm

Joker wrote:
snapcap wrote:
LennytheWicked wrote:
snapcap wrote:
Anti-Hebrew would have done the trick as well as being more right on.


Hebrew is a language, not a cultural group. People incorrectly refer to Jews as "Hebrews" sometimes, and it is offensive.

You don't call the Romans Latins, you don't call Africans Swahilis, you don't call the Chinese Mandarin or Cantonese.


What is the preferred term for the group?


We prefer to be called German as a group.


Are you a German Jew, or are you saying that some cultures refer to themselves by the language they speak?

The thing is, for many Jews, Hebrew is a second language. For many Germans, German is their first language, or so I would assume. For many Frenchies, French is their first language. However, Latinos don't speak Latin.



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24 Mar 2012, 8:44 pm

LennytheWicked wrote:
Joker wrote:
snapcap wrote:
LennytheWicked wrote:
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Anti-Hebrew would have done the trick as well as being more right on.


Hebrew is a language, not a cultural group. People incorrectly refer to Jews as "Hebrews" sometimes, and it is offensive.

You don't call the Romans Latins, you don't call Africans Swahilis, you don't call the Chinese Mandarin or Cantonese.


What is the preferred term for the group?


We prefer to be called German as a group.


Are you a German Jew, or are you saying that some cultures refer to themselves by the language they speak?

The thing is, for many Jews, Hebrew is a second language. For many Germans, German is their first language, or so I would assume. For many Frenchies, French is their first language. However, Latinos don't speak Latin.


Im not jewish just german irish