iceveela wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
iceveela wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
NewlyHuman wrote:
Yes, agnosticism deals with knowledge, theism/atheism with belief, so they are answering different questions. Most people are either agnostic atheists or agnostic theists.
Questioner: "Do you believe in god?"
The Young "Agnostic": "I don't KNOW, but..."
Questioner: "Yes...? But what...?"
If someone asks me that question, as an agnostic myself, I will say that there is no evidence yet to convince me either way. You cannot prove a god exists, but you cannot prove the non-existence of a god, therefor I am neutral in that regard.
Atheism does not involve a positive belief regarding god's existence.
Atheism IS the "
Negitive, not neutral", skeptical position.
If believing in god is the positive, than disbelieving is the negative.
No, actually, believing there is no god is the negative- that's strong atheism.
A lack of belief in both propositions is the neutral- that's weak atheism.
iceveela wrote:
Atheism is the attack on religion
Atheism is a lack of belief in gods. ("a")
You've said yourself that this describes you.
iceveela wrote:
But it is generally characterized by simple "I don't believe," but the reason rally did not show simple disbelief as a full frontal attack on religious provocations.. It is the complete opposite of religious worldview. It does not claim that god may not exist, it generally claims that god DOES not exist. Which is a claim of opposition, making the argument biased against the religious beliefs. Agnostics generally find no reason to even get involved in these silly endeavors, outside of telling both sides that they are stupid for claiming a non-provable proposition or proclamation.
You're incorrect.
You confuse weak and strong atheism.
"(A)gnosticism" does not refer to belief at all, but to knowledge ("gnos").
iceveela wrote:
To claim that atheism is neutral and unbiased is like saying that democrats are unbiased and neutral. Neither of the opposing sides of an argument can be considered a neutral party.
I'm sorry- your definitions are quite simply in error.
The majority of atheists make no claims about the existence or non-existence of gods.
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