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What is your religion or lack thereof?
Christain/jewish/other Jehovah/Yahweh centered religion 13%  13%  [ 7 ]
Muslim 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Buddhist 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
My own personal religion creation (please explain) 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
Wiccan 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Agnostic 17%  17%  [ 9 ]
Atheist 37%  37%  [ 19 ]
Other (please specify) 17%  17%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 52

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01 Apr 2012, 11:41 am

Ummm.. why are Jews in category 1 but not Muslims?



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01 Apr 2012, 11:48 am

Theological non-cognitivist



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01 Apr 2012, 11:53 am

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Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster represent!


Woot, woot.


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01 Apr 2012, 11:57 am

I am a devot christian



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01 Apr 2012, 11:58 am

I lack a belief in the flying spaghetti monster and that is my non-position.

Or is it?



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01 Apr 2012, 12:01 pm

iceveela wrote:
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iceveela wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
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Yes, agnosticism deals with knowledge, theism/atheism with belief, so they are answering different questions. Most people are either agnostic atheists or agnostic theists.

Questioner: "Do you believe in god?"

The Young "Agnostic": "I don't KNOW, but..."

Questioner: "Yes...? But what...?"


If someone asks me that question, as an agnostic myself, I will say that there is no evidence yet to convince me either way. You cannot prove a god exists, but you cannot prove the non-existence of a god, therefor I am neutral in that regard.


Atheism does not involve a positive belief regarding god's existence.
Atheism IS the "Negitive, not neutral", skeptical position.


If believing in god is the positive, than disbelieving is the negative.


No, actually, believing there is no god is the negative- that's strong atheism.
A lack of belief in both propositions is the neutral- that's weak atheism.
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Atheism is the attack on religion

Atheism is a lack of belief in gods. ("a")
You've said yourself that this describes you.
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But it is generally characterized by simple "I don't believe," but the reason rally did not show simple disbelief as a full frontal attack on religious provocations.. It is the complete opposite of religious worldview. It does not claim that god may not exist, it generally claims that god DOES not exist. Which is a claim of opposition, making the argument biased against the religious beliefs. Agnostics generally find no reason to even get involved in these silly endeavors, outside of telling both sides that they are stupid for claiming a non-provable proposition or proclamation.

You're incorrect.
You confuse weak and strong atheism.
"(A)gnosticism" does not refer to belief at all, but to knowledge ("gnos").
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To claim that atheism is neutral and unbiased is like saying that democrats are unbiased and neutral. Neither of the opposing sides of an argument can be considered a neutral party.

I'm sorry- your definitions are quite simply in error.

The majority of atheists make no claims about the existence or non-existence of gods.


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01 Apr 2012, 12:06 pm

I have no problem with athesits in general it's the strong atheists that I have a problem with who want to kill those who have faith.



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01 Apr 2012, 12:08 pm

I am a Tarvuist, the one true faith for the enlightened. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a false icon


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01 Apr 2012, 12:10 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:

The majority of atheists make no claims about the existence or non-existence of gods.


The majority of atheists are babies.



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01 Apr 2012, 12:10 pm

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I am a Tarvuist, the one true faith for the enlightened. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a false icon


Vigilans I would like to know what is a Tarvuist? If you don't mind me asking.



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01 Apr 2012, 12:13 pm

Joker wrote:
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I am a Tarvuist, the one true faith for the enlightened. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a false icon


Vigilans I would like to know what is a Tarvuist? If you don't mind me asking.


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01 Apr 2012, 12:13 pm

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I have no problem with athesits in general it's the strong atheists that I have a problem with who want to kill those who have faith.


Strong atheists believe there is no god.
Wanting to murder human beings is not a part of it.


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01 Apr 2012, 12:14 pm

I believe Vigilans is a prophet. :P


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01 Apr 2012, 12:18 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:
Joker wrote:
I have no problem with athesits in general it's the strong atheists that I have a problem with who want to kill those who have faith.


Strong atheists believe there is no god.
Wanting to murder human beings is not a part of it.


Strong atheists like Joesph Stalin did kill peole for their faith though.



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01 Apr 2012, 12:27 pm

Joker wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
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I have no problem with athesits in general it's the strong atheists that I have a problem with who want to kill those who have faith.


Strong atheists believe there is no god.
Wanting to murder human beings is not a part of it.


Strong atheists like Joesph Stalin did kill peole for their faith though.


Yeah, but at least he can say he didn't have a form of infantile regression.



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01 Apr 2012, 12:27 pm

Joker wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
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I have no problem with athesits in general it's the strong atheists that I have a problem with who want to kill those who have faith.


Strong atheists believe there is no god.
Wanting to murder human beings is not a part of it.


Strong atheists like Joesph Stalin did kill peole for their faith though.


Again, no. He killed people who stood in his way. The wealthy churches and their priests that had the people's ears and hearts were dangerous to his goals, so anyone who would not conform (at least publicly) and STFU had to be gotten rid of.

I am certainly not willing to kill anyone for my utmost conviction that fairies are fiction. Most atheists feel about as strongly about gods as that.