Racial realists , anyone out there?

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This thread's point in regard to race is silly. Apply that same point to sex differences, and we have a thread.
So-called "races" of humans aren't divided by something as obvious and fundamentally differentiating as opposite sets of genitals and X and Y chromosomes.
I think there are general truths about women and general truths about men. Spiritually, we're all the same, but we generally have very different brains and thus behavior patterns.
But some wish to see absolute identicality between the sexes, as if that wouldn't hurt more than help society continue to function.
People who say their gender means literally nothing are artificially devaluing themselves, I believe.

/derail

Then you believe wrong

People are overly sensitive about race to the point where it can not even be discussed in any sense without the word racist getting thrown around. However, the terms 'racial realist' or 'white nationalist' have, in my personal experience, were used by people most would describe as racist. The differences between races has far more to do with cultural and socioeconomic factors than it does anything genetics or biological. Race exists much in the same way different eye color or hair color exists.

"Racial realists" are white people who desperately want certain things to be true. Their lives are not very interesting, and so they have fantasies that there is a hierarchy of races based on intelligence and that their race is near the top. In this way, they can feel like they are a part of something interesting, a part of a "team" larger than themselves. Unfortunately, other white people don't actually like them very much. They pretend that the reason that other white people do not like them is that other white people have been brainwashed and need to be "woken up".

I don't know if I would describe them as "racists". I think that I would describe them as "sad".

Hmm lets see their have been Italian Black and Mexican raical realists not just white people,

http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/pppl1.pdf

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/9530.aspx - Oh by the way , even check out the responses by rushton from the article's criticizers.

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You have to remember that
(a) the vast majority of self-described "racial realists" are white, and
(b) modern racial realists do not say that whites are the most intelligent. They say that East Asians and Jews are more intelligent than whites.

So you don't need to believe that your race is at the top in order to achieve a sick pleasure out of being a racial realist. You only need to believe that some races are under you.

Hmm I do believe that racism can apply to any color or race lets see hear som example of a non white racial realist.

Malcolm X preach black surpremacy. btw I am a fan of him and I am not only white but also cherokee.

Fulgencio Batista.

Marcus Garvey a black nationalist.

Your subjectively silly ^^

- "This thread's point in regard to race is silly. Apply that same point to sex differences, and we have a thread".

Race is still a valued taxonomy: http://books.google.ca/books/about/The_ ... edir_esc=y

- "So-called "races" of humans aren't divided by something as obvious and fundamentally differentiating as opposite sets of genitals and X and Y chromosomes".

I really like this fictional story of yours , can I publish it?

Go ahead! I like reading autobiographies.

(a) where?

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Are we playing a psychologist here? ( psychologist's fallacy )

- "achieve a sick pleasure out of being a racial realist. You only need to believe that some races are under you"

I think I like you make very good points.

Yes, they anger me no end. Do they know what has happened because of racists... people won't do business with you, they try to ruin your life or that of your family members, they avoid servicing you, throw a fit just because you are in their presence, people were killed because of racism, raped, childhoods stolen, I mean its endless. And then they just toss it around so nonchalantly.

There is that, but when they deludedly call America that, that pisses me off the most. The ones throwing that word around are those who reside on the left. They can't help it... it is one of the lenses that, for them, reality is filtered through... the other two being class, and gender.

Are we going cherry picking Ruveyn? Since you point to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position.

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say with this. Race can't be a taxonomy. Taxonomy is the science of identifying and classifying living organisms. Race could be a taxon or a taxonomic rank within the biological taxonomy, but that is not the case. The term has been used in plant taxonomy in the past, but botany has also long replaced it with the species / subspecies taxa.

As for your link, as far as I can tell it has nothing whatsoever to do with your statement. It leads to a review of a book written by Richard Dawkins. I don't think that he is a big supporter of the idea of different human races, but I'm open to being convinced otherwise. Could you please quote the relevant part of the book? Without a quote, it makes little sense to use it as a reference, don't you think?

PS: I'm still waiting for your reply to my post. Do you have a list of human races, preferably one that was published in this century or the second half of the last century and has some scientific validity? Alternatively, you could post your own hypothesis. I still have no idea what exactly you mean when you talk about races. How many are there? What are they called? What are the classification criteria? We need to know this if we are meant to have a meaningful discussion about this subject, and I can't find any racial classification system for humans in the scientific literature for some weird reason.

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