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Joker
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21 Apr 2012, 5:24 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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I think I've discussed this matter with you more than enough that I no longer need to address it.
All that matters to me is that my denomination comes across as sane when compared to many other faiths (especially in its American incarnation), and who perceives God as loving and forgiving.
I seriously think you need to look at yourself in the mirror concerning your own hostility toward people who have never done you any wrong.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Anti-Semites like Luther made life hard for my people in his day, and his attitude still make life hard for me and my people in my day. Martin Luther was pure sh*t as a human being. When you Lutheran folk repudiate Martin Luther's hatred of the Jews publicly it will be a better day you your folks.

He does get full credit for breaking the monopoly of Rome on the Christianity of Europe.

There are two things I generally do not do. One is forget and the other is forgive.

ruveyn


As a matter of fact if you had cared to check, all Lutheran churches in America, Canada, and Germany have made public statements repudiating Luther's Anti-Semitic writings. I suggest you check your sources before you write such an incendiary post.
And I strongly get the impression that you think modern Lutherans hold Luther's Anti-Semitic feelings. If so, other than for a tiny minority, you are dead wrong.
And as this thread is about the Thirty Years War, I can tell you in all truthfulness, Catholicism had made life for my people hard, but I hardly hold this against Catholics today. And since when has any Lutheran ever attacked you personally?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Catholics have made life hard for my people as well I hold no gruge against them though I believe things happen for a reason.



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21 Apr 2012, 5:28 pm

Joker wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

I think I've discussed this matter with you more than enough that I no longer need to address it.
All that matters to me is that my denomination comes across as sane when compared to many other faiths (especially in its American incarnation), and who perceives God as loving and forgiving.
I seriously think you need to look at yourself in the mirror concerning your own hostility toward people who have never done you any wrong.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Anti-Semites like Luther made life hard for my people in his day, and his attitude still make life hard for me and my people in my day. Martin Luther was pure sh*t as a human being. When you Lutheran folk repudiate Martin Luther's hatred of the Jews publicly it will be a better day you your folks.

He does get full credit for breaking the monopoly of Rome on the Christianity of Europe.

There are two things I generally do not do. One is forget and the other is forgive.

ruveyn


As a matter of fact if you had cared to check, all Lutheran churches in America, Canada, and Germany have made public statements repudiating Luther's Anti-Semitic writings. I suggest you check your sources before you write such an incendiary post.
And I strongly get the impression that you think modern Lutherans hold Luther's Anti-Semitic feelings. If so, other than for a tiny minority, you are dead wrong.
And as this thread is about the Thirty Years War, I can tell you in all truthfulness, Catholicism had made life for my people hard, but I hardly hold this against Catholics today. And since when has any Lutheran ever attacked you personally?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Catholics have made life hard for my people as well I hold no gruge against them though I believe things happen for a reason.


Exactly.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer