Elizabeth Warren, Native American?

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Yes and no on the healthcare....if you are living in your traditional tribal area, then yes, if you move elsewhere it's harder to get. I live outside my tribal area these days and I believe there is some group out there that provides referrals for Indians living outside their area, but the resources available for me are much less than the local Indian people living here.

I'm pretty confident that there is no tribe that would permit non-Indian people to join. Actually, my tribe recently voted to expel the descendants of former slaves who were owned by the Cherokee and had been counted as Cherokee when the rolls were created. It's been a huge controversy, and I think the US gov't has pressured them to re-admit them [by withholding federal funds for housing and other programs.]

Actually I guess those are cases where they did allow non-Indians to join, I think a lot of the Southern tribes had their slaves included after the Civil War, and the Seminole tribe was known for sheltering escaped slaves in Florida and adopted many of them.

The Crow Tribe adopted President Obama.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008 ... americans/

She grew up in a working class neighborhood in Oklahoma. Her father was a janitor who died of a heart attack when she was still in school. I don't think you want to really attack her on where she comes from. She's as working class as anyone, and has shown that most of the working class individuals declaring bankruptcy did so due to genuine family crises, breakups and medical bills that depleted their savings. She's on the side of working people, not big banks and big corporations, and I think this little smear campaign is despicable.

But go ahead, she'll still win.

I know that tribes do award "honorary" membership but I don't know if those people could actually be considered tribal members if they did somehow want to use tribal services.

It's similar to a university awarding an honorary doctorate...I don't think that would mean the honoree would be allowed to publish academic papers, teach, etc....

I'm not from Massachusetts so don't know how voters are there but I would guess that anyone who might be swayed by any of this would probably not have been likely to vote for her anyway.

Honestly, if you were going to "fake" minority status Indian would be the last one you would want, Indians are often called "the forgotten minority" because there is nowhere near as much interest in their issues compared to those of other minority groups.

She's about as 'working class' as Mitt Romney with her $5 million dollar home and $14 million dollar net worth. I imagine he husband isn't exactly a poor fella either also being a Harvard professor. You can not deny that she has tried to at the very least downplay her vast wealth.

There are some criteria formulated by Rabbis and Sages but no ruling body. Judaism is devoid of a ruling council. Whenever three Jews get together four opinions or viewpoints emerge. Getting a bunch of Jews to act in concert is akin to herding squirrels.

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It looks like those of us who can claim German ancestry may have an advantage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aussiedler#Germany

I may have had German ancestors who migrated to America over 200 years ago. So, if this is correct, then I should be able to go to Germany, claim German citizenship, and enjoy being a citizen of an EU country, if I wanted.

I believe Ireland has similar rules., although I think you have a parent or grandparent who was an Irish citizen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aussiedler#Germany



I don't have any Jewish ancestors that I know of. But, apparently Israel has some authorities who get to decide who can be a Jew. I'm sure that my circumcision would not be sufficient for me to be enrolled.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aussiedler#Germany



I like to play Irish fiddle tunes on my violin. I wonder if that's enough.

You can search here: http://www.ihs.gov/findhealthcare/index.cfm

Absolutely nothing in Illinois or Indiana--rather ironic, two states named for Indians, and from which the Indians were expelled over 150 years ago.

If you have a medical emergency, then you are responsible for your own expenses, if you can't make it to an IHS facility.

Well, okay--I don't think that I will bother seeking tribal membership.

Yes, there are "Black Seminoles" who have been likened to "Italian Americans"( hyphenated seminoles) who are descended from escaped slaves who lived (and fought the white man) alongside the heriditary seminoles. Thats Interesting about slaves who were owned by southern tribes like the cherokee. I knew native americans owned black slaves but didnt know about the modern issue of the ethnic affinity for the descendants of those slaves.

Shania Twain got more flack than the senator for self identifying as a Cree Indian.
But though the country star is a pure Anglo Canadian by blood her divorced mom married a cree and she grew up on the res and trapped rabbits for the dinner pot and lived the reservation culture and lifestyle. So she could be classified as a "White Cree" in the way that Florida's Black Seminoles are "Seminole".
So Shania Twain has more right to call herself an american indian than this lady who has never lived in a native american culture ( and is only one 32nd native american) has.

But the real question is this: what 'race' is the New Jersey Tanorexic Mom?

If you're blonde and were born White, but go nuts and spend so much time at the taning salon that you bake yourself into being darker than most African Americans and then you fall through a time warp and find yourself in the Jim Crow South of the thirties- what race would you be assigned to by the authorities?

The Solomon Islands has a number of black folks with naturally blond hair

http://bristol.ac.uk/news/2012/8455.html

There is also a large number of blond people in the Indigenous Australian population My point was that most people that we call black are various shades of brown, just like so-called white people are actually beige, peach or apricot. Blond is a fairly accurate description of a human trait, whereas black and white are nothing but culturally constructed stereotypes. All women in the image below have the exact same skin color, and yet we call one of them white and another black:



Most people would also call one of them Asian and another Hispanic, without knowing if they really live in Spain or in the part of Eurasia that our ancestors have arbitrarily defined as Asia as if it was a separate continent. What we are really doing, instead of identifying skin colors, is stereotyping people based on traits such as the width of their noses, despite the fact that these traits vary greatly within every human population. It makes very little sense, and of course it's very inaccurate. If you show a photo of an Andalusian person to different people and ask them to identify the "race", you will get answers such as "Middle Eastern" and "Mexican".

Of course it is helpful to use skin color in the description of a person, but I think we should get rid of racial stereotypes and try to be more accurate. Like "he was tall, medium blond, had dark brown eyes and sandy brown skin". Interestingly, most people wouldn't recognize a color like sandy brown, peach or deep taupe if it flew over their house and crapped on their car. People see these colors every day in the streets and yet they have no names for them. I think everybody can name at least ten shades of green, but when it comes to skin tones, we are trained to literally think in black and white.

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Is the second one Kaylani Lei? The one next to her is obviously Miss Paris Hilton.

Who are the others?

Um, yes That's her. But except for Kaylani and Paris, I have no idea who they are. When I put this together, I simply googled for photos with the same skin tone (none of the images is photoshopped btw). In case of Kaylani, I searched by name since I've, um, seen a lot of her work and knew that she was a good match. Paris came up when I searched for "strong tan".