Has Jesus ever disclosed the name of GOD?

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That's kind of offensive you refer to the Jewish belief about not pronouncing the proper name of god as a "superstition"

It's my understanding no one knows for sure the vowels that go along with the name, so w/o the vowel points, we can't know for sure.

He did he said Yahweh.

Scripture reference, please.

The simple answer is yes, but considering all of you are very learned individuals a longer answer is provided.

The Hebrew Tetragrammaton יהוה is found 6,828 times in the Hebrew text. In Hebrew this divine name is pronounced Yahweh, while in English it is pronounced Jehovah (much like your name would be pronounced different, and even spelled differently, in another language).

I direct you to Matthew 22:34-40. I'll use the King James Version since this is the translation many are familiar with most, but you are welcome to use any translation. It reads:



It is worth noting what the pharisee asked Jesus. He asked “which is the great commandment in the law?” Of which law was the pharisee referring to? As a member of the Sanhedrin, or Jewish high court, he would have been referring to the Torah (what the Jews call the first five books of the bible). If you look at Jesus reply he was quoting from Deuteronomy 6:5. In the original Hebrew writings the Hebrew Tetragrammaton יהוה appears.



Based on the scriptural evidence presented what logical conclusion would you make? Would you say "Lord thy God" or "Jehovah thy God"? You could logically conclude Jesus said “You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind” because Jehovah's name appears in the scripture he quoted. Very plainly Jesus disclosed to that pharisee, and all those present, that it was to Jehovah God, not himself, that all worship must go.

When Christians read the bible and see LORD and GOD most believe this to be Jesus. Do they understand why LORD and GOD appears instead of Jehovah? Likely they do not. So why does "Lord thy God" appear? The replacing of God's name with titles such as Adhonai (LORD) or Elohim (GOD) originally came from a Jewish superstitious beliefs that exists down to this day. Unfortunately they misunderstood the commandment "You must not take up the name of Jehovah your God in a worthless way" (Exodus 20:7) As a point of fact they took that commandment to the extreme and never uttered the divine name, which is why the exact pronunciation of the divine name is unknown today.

Going back to the bible, Jesus' apostles quoted many Hebrew scriptures where the Hebrew Tetragrammaton יהוה appears, thus they would have written and used God's name Jehovah (or the Hebrew equivalent). That is why Jehovah appears in the Christian-Greek scriptures of the New World Translation; a bible primarily used by Jehovah's Witnesses today. Here are a few examples:

(Galatians 3:6) Just as Abraham “put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”

(James 2:23) and the scripture was fulfilled which says: “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness”

Both the apostle Paul and James quoted Genesis 15:6 which reads, “And he put faith in Jehovah; and he proceeded to count it to him as righteousness.” In the original Hebrew writings the Hebrew Tetragrammaton יהוה appears.



(Romans 15:9-11) Just as it is written: . . . “Praise Jehovah, all YOU nations, and let all the peoples praise him.”

Paul again was quoting Psalms 117:1 which reads, “Praise Jehovah, all YOU nations; Commend him, all YOU clans.” Again, in the original Hebrew writings the Hebrew Tetragrammaton יהוה appears.



By seeing God's name in both the Hebrew and Christian-Greek scriptures this brings the whole book into harmony and echos the words of the apostle Paul, "All Scripture is inspired of God." Because only through this harmony is the bible "beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16)

It is not my intention to post this information to "proselytize" anyone. I am merely posting this information as a basic bible truth. You can do with it what you wish. I hope you will look into the bible, past what the churches teach, to what Paul called "the accurate knowledge of the truth". (Titus 1:1)

Can you provide the Greek for the New Testament passages?

Look in the new testement go on a journy of bible reading.

So...

Evidence, please. I want to know book, chapter, and verse of the NT in which Jesus invokes the Name.

There is not a single reference on that website to actual scripture in which Jesus says "Yahweh."

In the NT, does Jesus ever say "Yahweh"? I'm starting to think not. I think if Jesus had ever called His Father by the Name, surely I'd have noticed.

Here's the deal: There is a Sacred Name movement going on at the fringe of mainstream Christianity that emphasizes use of the Name. That includes churches that include "God" or "Christ" in their title, whether an individual church or an entire denomination. Watchtower strongly emphasizes "Jehovah," and I've heard that there are smaller groups that make an overblown case for inserting Yahweh everywhere He is referenced by other titles. It's just a way they can claim sole ownership of God and Christ. "Name" cults deserve to be viewed with skeptical eyes.

It depends on what version of the bible you are reading.

It depends on what version of the bible you are reading.

Joker, that is entirely irrelevant.

The question is really about, the best interpretation of our evidence. Most versions of the Bible do not have Yahweh in the NT. I don't actually know of a translation that actually has Yahweh. The Jehovah's Witnesses have Jehovah in their Bible, but that's because they make a huge deal out of this. However, all sides are really concerned that they are being loyal to the original Greek scriptures, and that they are interpreting those scriptures accurately in light of what we know of the Greek language at the time, what we know about the cultural context of the time, and all of that. There is a version of the bible that involves a ceiling cat and cheeseburgers. NOBODY CARES! http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Main_Page (Well, some people may, but in practice it is irrelevant. Also, in that translation Jesus called God "ceilin cat", but I don't think anybody believes that accurately represents the reality. )

Why do you care you don't even believe in him.

No, it doesn't. It depends on what Jesus was reported to have actually said. You need to go to the source texts for that, which will be in Greek. Try Nestle-Aland Novum Testamentum Graece and United Bible Societies' Greek New Testament. My preferred translation is the HSCB (English), but practically all contemporary translations are based on these source texts, which in turn are scholarly works compiled from the earliest manuscripts.

If a contemporary translation has "Yahweh" spoken by Jesus, I'd like to know exactly where it was written so I can see it for myself. Otherwise, I must conclude that Jesus never uttered the Name in public or around His disciples, at least not in any way worthy of any mention by the witnesses who ultimately did commit Jesus' sayings and actions to writing. I'm curious about exactly where this is supposed to have happened and in what translation it appears.

The NWT doesn't count as acceptable, since it is widely known that its authors altered parts of it to better fit their particular theology.