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22 Jul 2012, 6:14 pm

I didn't know that Dan Rather was still in the news business.

http://news.yahoo.com/report--chavez-s- ... tage-.html

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Report: Chavez's cancer has 'entered the end stage'

A special report from Dan Rather, anchor and managing editor of HDNet's Dan Rather Report

This reporter has been told that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has metastatic rhabdomyosarcoma, an aggressive cancer that has "entered the end stage". The information and the quote come from a highly respected source close to Chavez and who is in a position to know his medical condition and history. This source says the prognosis is dire and that Chavez is now not expected to live "more than a couple of months at most." Chavez is running for re-elec tion in Venezuela but several sources--including the one who revealed the exact kind of cancer-- have told me that they believe it is doubtful the dictator will live to see the results.

Voting is scheduled for October 7th. Chavez has been treated three times in Cuba but the exact kind of cancer has been a closely guarded state secret.

Reporter's note: There is only one source for identifying the cancer and for the prognosis quoted in the first part of the above story. This is a person whom your reporter has very good reason to trust, but you should know that there is only one source so far; no other immediate confirmation. All sources asked for and were granted anonymity

Metastatic RMS is extremely rare in adults, but is not always fatal.

http://jco.ascopubs.org/content/26/14/2384.full

We shall see. Those of you who believe in the power of prayer had better pray really hard. I'm sure that Cuba gave him top-notch treatment. Obviously, if he had been an American without health insurance, then he would have died a long time ago.

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22 Jul 2012, 6:17 pm

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... eport.html

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HDnet's Dan Rather has published what appears to be a scoop about the continued failing health of Venezuela's meat-headed leader, Hugo Chavez. The reporter, formerly known as Hoss, back when he used to have friends, claims he has been informed by a "highly respected source close to Chavez" that

...Chavez has metastatic rhabdomyosarcoma, an aggressive cancer that has 'entered the end stage.'

Unfortunately, readers should remain wary of the veracity of Rather's report, as his career has entered its "end stage" as well.

This type of cancer affects the connective tissue, sometimes wrapping itself around intestines, and is rarely seen in adults. The prognosis is poor in most cases.

The drama surrounding Chavez is heightened by his continued campaign for re-election and the uncertainty sure to envelop one of South America's wealthiest nations. Pardon my skepticism, but this seems like the ideal place for Rather to generate some p.r. for the network founded by Mark Cuban and recently purchased by Ryan Seacrest.

We have seen what happens when we rely on the "experts" at Mr. Rather's disposal. Of course, Rather is promoting a book, so while savoring this report, please take it with a mountain of salt.

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22 Jul 2012, 11:32 pm

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Chavez is a clown.

An utter clown.

But cancer will get rid of him soon anyway.

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Remember that the old regime before Chavez killed hundreds of people in the streets in the name of the IMF in February 1989. The opposition wants to return to these dark times.

This is the sort of clownish non-sense that abounds in Chavez apologists. Everything has to be the fallacy of the missing middle. Always a variation of "so you don't like Chavez, the only alternative is to go back to FMI times",

I request all the 1st world leftists to stop being utter hypocrites.

Next time you complain about London being very bad on rioters, please remember all the stunts and tricks Chavez and his friends' pull on any sort of protest. Next time you complain about how the media ignores your occupier fights, please keep in mind how these clowns in South America control their own press and threaten freedom of speech at ultra speed. Next time you complain about BP drilling in the pole, please be my guest and consider how Morales "indigenous" and green government has fought with claws and tooth to build a high way completely breaking apart a natural reserve in the Amazon.

Do you really think that the old ruling class won't go back to business as usual? They had the neoliberal reforms with the IMF before and they'll certainly have them again and will kill the intended victims if they complain surely.

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23 Jul 2012, 7:17 am

If you compare Venezuela to a lot of other oil-rich nations--the wealth tends to accrue to a very small number of people: the political leaders and their cronies and family members, or a small number of capitalists. Often, very little (if any) of the wealth ends up trickling down to the general population.

Mr. Chavez deserves a lot of credit for redistributing the wealth, so that most Venezuelans are benefitting.

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23 Jul 2012, 3:02 pm

xenon13 wrote:

Do you really think that the old ruling class won't go back to business as usual?

This tells me really how little you know about the state of affairs in ALBA.

The old ruling class , sans the very high guys like presidents ARE still the ruling class. They are all rats that have adapted. As opposed to chanting for the old president, they now chant for Chavez in a chorus. As a benefit, since there is no longer much freedom of press , they can do their corrupt management without being caught. It is paradise for the ruling class.

Chavez has invented and exported a model that can be summed up as crap world socialism for the working class and ultra narcotrafficking - money-powered capitalism for the rulers. Inequality is doing much worse. The main difference is that the middle class was downgraded to poor and the poor to ultra poor. Thanks to this they are dependent on Chavez' solidarity.

It has been an ultra destructive cycle. In all scales. Economically, you no longer have chances. Educatively you are more ignorant. You are more dependent on the government. And the corporative monopoly has been replaced with state monopoly. There is little to no freedom and god forbid you criticize Chaves (or Correa, or etc) openly, you might go to trial. The government controls the press. The government controls the judicial power. Police people do nothing but control riots.

I am going to say a very honest f**k you to any first world leftist who delves into Chavez apologism just because of stuff he read in their crappy uber biased online sites..

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23 Jul 2012, 4:23 pm

It does seem that Chavez's days are probably numbered due to his cancer. Recalled reading that even members of his own political party are planning for his passing.

"Venezuelan Struggle for Chavez Succession Breaks Into The Open"

http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/ ... venezuela/

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Apparently, the people who know Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez best and work with him most closely think he’s a liar. That’s the only possible reason why, despite Chavez’s frequent and continuing claims that his cancer (type and status still held as a secret) has miraculously been cured, his entourage is erupting in a mad scramble for the succession.
As Hugo Chavez gets back in touch with Jesus as to why his cancer resurfaced, the Economist reports that his fellow United Socialist Party (PSUV) members are bringing the struggle for succession into public view:
None other than the president’s brother, Adan Chavez, the governor of their home state of Barinas, alleged in a recent article that treason stalked the corridors of power. Although he named no names, he hinted that the traitors belonged to the ruling clique. Some commentators saw a link between his allegations and a perceived struggle for succession.
As the article continues, there are signs that a schism is forming between Diosdad Cabello, VP of the party and chair Venezuela’s legislature, and Elias Jaua, VP of the country. The state governors are throwing their hats in the ring as well:...

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23 Jul 2012, 8:16 pm

Here is a recent NPR story

http://www.npr.org/2012/06/12/154875964 ... ection-foe

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24 Jul 2012, 9:37 am

What concern is it to us which thugs rule in the sh*t holes of central and south America?

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24 Jul 2012, 2:32 pm

I think that most of us would benefit from Latin American countries being stable and prosperous.

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